# CCP Hilmar, CCP Falcon, and CCP Goodfella reveal their plans for an Eve Era of CHAOS in this new interview! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261 "2019-07-26T18:43:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/164 "2019-07-29T20:37:11Z")
The numbers went up that is true, but there was also a SP reward for logging in so thats not a valid statistic. Also pretty much everyone went out to use this and get some fights while it’s fresh. The real effect will only show after enough time has passed and it’s shurely not to get more people to move to Null who didn’t want to be there before while people who did and now no longer feel safe are more likely to quit than move back to Highsec wich they already had decided to leave long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/165 "2019-07-29T20:40:35Z")
But you know that null is supposed to be dangerous? CCP is fixing mistakes they made some years ago and honestly? This only upset people they want to get rid of anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/166 "2019-07-29T21:04:44Z")
Only there is no danger involved in mining behind a gatecamp. It’s only more effort, giving mega alliances even more advantage compared to small groups who might want to try gaining a foothold in Nullsec and making content other get getting droped on by caps even less likely than it is already. Also your disaproving of people who want to build stuff rather than pvp only is a wide spread but stupid attitude among griefers and wallet warriors. It’s almost like people don’t understand that without those people they’d have to rat and mine for themselves and become the nullbears they despise. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/167 "2019-07-29T21:10:26Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Also your disaproving of people who want to build stuff rather than pvp only is a wide spread but stupid attitude among griefers and wallet warriors. And you always forget those of us who happily supply PvPers because without them blowing things up…? You know, its entirely possible to be both. Its not a bi-partisan situation. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/168 "2019-07-29T21:20:13Z")
See thats much more realistic than calling people Nullbears just because they don’t finance everything with plex. Really there are not manny people who do nothing but ‘x’ Some times it’s protect my sandcastle, others it’s kick over that guys sandcastle. The whole whining about ‘Eve has become too safe’ is just a different way of saying ‘Please buff whaling’ and the natural result will be less content for everyone when people leave and those that stay know how to not loose their assets. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/169 "2019-07-29T21:24:55Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > natural result will be less content for everyone when people leave and those that stay know how to not loose their assets. Well thats where our reading differs. Because its not the blower uppers who are leaving. Its not the makers who are also blower uppers who are leaving. Its the makers and keepers and lose nothingers who are leaving. Basically, the only people holding back a non-dynamic EvE are at least threatening to leave, and thats a good thing. If Certain (highly specialised) animals go extinct because the environment changes, then the non-niche animals will thrive in the resource space vacated. I dont believe EvE is Dying, never have, never will. This is just the Summer 2019 remix of that tired song Ive heard so many times. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/170 "2019-07-29T21:32:53Z")
I never buy Plex and i’ve not lost an isk making ship longer than i can remember… Look at my killboard an tell me if you really want a majority of people to be as good at this ■■■■ as i am. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/171 "2019-07-29T21:34:12Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > I never buy Plex and i’ve not lost an isk making ship longer than i can remember… Good for you. > [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Look at my killboard an tell me if you really want a majority of people to be as good at this ■■■■ as i am. No idea mate, dont touch the things. Im ■■■■ in a fight, so peen measuring is useless I however am happy to trash an Orca just to see it explode. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/172 "2019-07-29T22:20:40Z")
That cat has wormhole explorer eyes. dscan \> hack \> overview \> dscan \> hack \> overview \> dscan \> hack \> overview \> dscan \> hack \> overview \> dscan \> hack \> overview \> … ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/173 "2019-07-29T22:59:35Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > Null is where your alliance has space superiority - taking this away from someone should only work with a matching force and by all out war. Annnnnnnd that is what didn’t happen because you all decided to sit on your asses and not fight while the permanent ISK faucets flowed. So now you have this. ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/174 "2019-07-29T23:04:55Z")
I remeber having to move back from a deployment early just a few weeks ago because someone decided to spawn garbage rats on our stuctures instead of letting us fight a war against a player alliance. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/175 "2019-07-30T01:08:18Z")
This is a cheap game for them to run with only a niche player base. They lost a lot before, I think they can afford it again. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/176 "2019-07-30T02:31:52Z")
This is just a problem that has existed for many years, which occurred out of null bears and the CSM crying about not enough reward in Null. They got it and now this is just the reckoning of the risk level to meet those rewards. In the end this will hopefully revitalize the game as null is no longer a theme park safe ride. As to those who do not like the riskier null. Go to Lo-sec or Hi-sec or Adapt. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/177 "2019-07-30T02:48:38Z")
Did you listen to what hilmar said? Seems we’re in for much more. Buckle up, sparky. ---
**Author:** ![Erlung\_Achasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erlung_achasse/32/188774_2.png) [@Erlung\_Achasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erlung_Achasse)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/178 "2019-07-30T03:09:35Z")
talk about future（More CHAOS） ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/180 "2019-07-30T04:41:18Z")
hilmar was like: [YAAAAAH!](https://i.imgur.com/b71MOPQ.mp4) _edit_: Yeah the purple donut thing was surprising, agreed. I understand that English is not hilmar’s first language and that’s no problem…but language knowing wasn’t the problem there… Cringeworthy, yikes. So, @Sindrakin_Gorion …got a plan for your stuff? I’d gratefully accept it…I’ll probably be here at least a little bit…probably… ---
**Author:** ![Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindrakin_gorion/32/254940_2.png) [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindrakin_Gorion)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/181 "2019-07-30T05:38:50Z")
Well if you have any use for the Alt i spent the last months training into rorqual and now won’t ever see undock i might sell you that. What are 34mil SP worth these days? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/182 "2019-07-30T07:00:07Z")
> [@Sindrakin\_Gorion](#): > > They have a hard enough time gaining new players. > Himlar even sait the new NPE made it worse. > Pissing off customers you already have while failing to gain new ones is shurely not what one learns in business class… Exactly and if they keep doing these knee jerk actions without stopping for a little breather to view the larger picture, this whole thing is gonna jump up, roll over and die. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/183 "2019-07-30T07:05:10Z")
> [@Sordina](#): > > > [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > > > The question is whether they will be thrilled to lose money and players cause that is what is going to happen. > > They are. In podcast they are saying that numbers are only going up after no local. So yes, null trolls are worth only salt while people actually like that change. Come on, after years and years of listening to their empty promises and outright lies, you seriously gonna say you believe that BS? ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261/184 "2019-07-30T07:12:12Z")
I believe because my old friends are coming back to game and I also believe more company than bots that claim they will leave game and unsub billions of his RMT alts because they think someone care about them. Actually I like ocean of salt coming from this. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hilmar-ccp-falcon-and-ccp-goodfella-reveal-their-plans-for-an-eve-era-of-chaos-in-this-new-interview/178261.md?page=10)