# CCP investigating small structures for daytripping/beachheads/small corporations **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 14, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715 "2018-04-14T20:27:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Donkyhotay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donkyhotay/32/176726_2.png) [@Donkyhotay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donkyhotay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/1 "2018-04-14T20:27:51Z")
So [this](https://twitter.com/evenews24/status/985150267992739841) was posted on twitter earlier. So long as they’re much easier to take down then the current upwell structures it will be great for smaller corps and daytrippers. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/2 "2018-04-14T20:36:37Z")
Twitter is still a thing? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/3 "2018-04-14T20:40:44Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Twitter is still a thing? Why wouldn’t it be? People are desperate for attention after all. Views, followers, likes and whatever else there is all give those dopamine hits everyone’s chasing. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/4 "2018-04-14T22:10:16Z")
> [@Donkyhotay](#): > > So [this](https://twitter.com/evenews24/status/985150267992739841) was posted on twitter earlier. So long as they’re much easier to take down then the current upwell structures it will be great for smaller corps and daytrippers. Yes, fozzie explained about the upcoming structures during his presentation, that apparently nobody watched, they are looking to replace POS towers with a smaller structure to enable people to spend more time in places like wormholes and to enable beachheads for ops etc, they are still a little ways away though as they need to sort out cyno jammers/beacons and the replacements for jump bridges ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/5 "2018-04-14T23:26:07Z")
This is how they’re gauging a “fix” for war I _guarantee_ it. Intel overhaul, nahhh Unfuck crime watch, nahhh Kill off neutral logi, nahhh Unfuck cost scaling, nahhh Slap a structure on it and call it a day … 🤔 No, we need mechanism reevaluated , not this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Khan\_Wrenth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_wrenth/32/14130_2.png) [@Khan\_Wrenth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Wrenth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/6 "2018-04-14T23:32:35Z")
I’m sorry but I don’t understand the relation. Why would these player FOBs be in any way related to wars? ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/7 "2018-04-14T23:39:56Z")
More potential litter to be cleaned up, I’ll grab my space broom. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/8 "2018-04-15T00:15:46Z")
Just wait. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/9 "2018-04-15T00:25:51Z")
> [@Khan\_Wrenth](#): > > I’m sorry but I don’t understand the relation. Why would these player FOBs be in any way related to wars? Because its a staging point, think of something that has some sort of basic defences of maybe a cut down POS bubble you can use as a staging point for cyno alts, there are uses for this sort of thing ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/10 "2018-04-15T02:24:52Z")
> [@Khan\_Wrenth](#): > > Why would these player FOBs be in any way related to wars? The potential is that as a 'Starter structure for small corporations" these could be combined with a wardec mechanics change, limiting wars to only being against corporations that own a full structure (POS, POCO, Upwell) and these could be deployed by corps and not expose them to war. I think Ralph is afraid that could be the entire solution to war issues. I hope not, because it wouldn’t stop the whining, nor fix the current issues. However, if these are individual player owned, these could be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Austin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_austin/32/321578_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Austin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Austin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/11 "2018-04-15T03:51:38Z")
From what I read earlier and saw on the Keynotes and such they said the key thing if you don’t have something in space you don’t have any skin in the game I think that means are going to work on the War deck mechanic some different way so I’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in time ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/12 "2018-04-15T06:29:21Z")
I already came up with model some time ago. Something like a small POS with functionality and practicality of it, but not using POS code. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/1/014fb0ecdd2938302fc48c366fe42fb2d8c7dd05.jpg) Dont look at properties, it would be rather a CCP thing to balance it. These are the basic ones. Balancing, modules, anchoring, all of it is rather not my specialty. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/13 "2018-04-15T06:40:36Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Dont look at properties, it would be rather a CCP thing to balance it From the round table via Reddit: ![round_table](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/ad3350bb277e4e63a2b4baf61516eb9805ed0046.png) Obviously just initial thoughts and not a final design. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/14 "2018-04-15T07:13:29Z")
Even more structure spam. Don’t do that. Those things will be everywhere or useless. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/15 "2018-04-15T07:53:03Z")
No docking? Well, that would imply it would be rather small, some kind of platform with storage and services accessible thru the right click menu. Not a mini citadel, but rather glorified depot. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/16 "2018-04-15T11:37:28Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > I hope not, because it wouldn’t stop the whining Nothing will ever stop the whining as long as the whiners are given room for whining in the first place. Absolutely nothing. It does not matter how they change the wardec mechanics, as long as they do not change everything around them. ---
**Author:** ![system1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-investigating-small-structures-for-daytripping-beachheads-small-corporations/69715/17 "2018-07-14T11:37:28Z")
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