# :facepalm: CCP is an untrustworthy purveyor of limited edition assets

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**Created:** [October 10, 2021, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675 "2021-10-10T07:30:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/82 "2021-10-13T11:53:07Z")

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> [@Oskar\_Milde](#):
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> Have they made any clear and unambiguous statements that things that will be “one-time only” that have since been reneged upon?

I am on lunch break so no links but the police skins were advertised as “limited edition” & “last chance”.

There have been several other betrayals regarding this. CCP once compensated players with a coat but they’ve since become apologetic over their limited edditon scams.

Eve online digital assets are hot garbage that will be dumped in value on a whim, only a fool would be enticed by Eve online IP with CCP’s terra bad history.

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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/83 "2021-10-13T11:57:33Z")

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Calling sinking values of eve IP a scam nowadays does not wash with me since police skin re-release.

Everyone but the newest players should know Eve IP is hot garbage & you should not be paying $ or plex for stuff that will be given out for free in drops, Christmas gifts or daily logins at a later date.

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/84 "2021-10-13T12:05:31Z")

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Ahh yes, hands up who hoarded those NEX goggles and items thinking they were going to be limited or unique and used with WIS?

Yup, they promptly cancelled WIS and then started selling duplicates cheaper of those items thus tanking the value and uniqueness.

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**Author:** ![Oskar\_Milde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oskar_milde/32/396309_2.png) [@Oskar\_Milde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oskar_Milde)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/85 "2021-10-13T13:00:39Z")

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No, the police skins were advertised as no longer being available in the store, not as limited editions. So your misconception there is the problem, not CCP. There’s a whole Reddit thread on this.

I can’t find any reference to the AT ship prizes being one run ever, though I hardly think releasing a second batch of 50 over… 17 years? is a radical scam.

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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/86 "2021-10-14T11:02:57Z")

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Stfu, police skins were advertised as “limited time only” & “last chance”.

They are neither limited time only or last chance or issue. CCP lied & now their IP sales died.

The writing is on the wall CCP IP, is hot garbage, spread the word only a fool would buy.

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**Author:** ![Oskar\_Milde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oskar_milde/32/396309_2.png) [@Oskar\_Milde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oskar_Milde)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/87 "2021-10-14T11:37:40Z")

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At no point in the announcement of skins do CCP say they are one-time available.

> **[New Yoiul Star SKIN Added | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/new-yoiul-star-skin-added)**
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> Available until 7 Jan

> **[New Eden Store - More Police SKINs Available! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/new-eden-store-more-police-skins-available)**
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> Check out this article for details of the release of more Police SKINs for Gallente hulls!

> **[New Eden Store - Emperor Bear SKINs Available For Selected Hulls! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/new-eden-store-emperor-bear-skins-available-for-selected-hulls)**
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> Take a look at this news item for details of new Emperor Bear SKINs that are now available for selected hulls in the New Eden Store!

You should also note, however, that when skins are one-time or being withdrawn from sale, this is explicitly stated:

> **[New Guristas Helmatt's Harriers SKIN | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/new-guristas-helmatts-harriers-skin)**
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> Plus New Eden Store SKIN sales

> **[New Heartsurge SKINs available now! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/new-heartsurge-skins-available-now)**
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> Check out the new Heartsurge SKINs in the New Eden Store, but only for a limited time!

Now, if you can show that CCP have explicitly stated that a skin is being withdrawn, or **explicitly** that the skin will only be available at a certain time **and never again** , as per the two links above, and have then gone backwards on that, we will have something to discuss.

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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/88 "2021-10-14T11:42:20Z")

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“Last chance” does not mean last chance, OK.

Don’t really care what CCP say to be honest they u turn, betray & break their word near every promotion & game moderation.

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**Author:** ![Oskar\_Milde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oskar_milde/32/396309_2.png) [@Oskar\_Milde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oskar_Milde)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/89 "2021-10-14T11:44:31Z")

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Last chance at that time. It’s marketing. If you were a serious investor, you’d be paying attention to what they are saying, and making your purchases accordingly. If you are simply collecting the skins, then knowing when the opportunity will be lost for a time will be equally important.

This whole thread boils down to people being annoyed that they didn’t do the research. Le sigh.

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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/90 "2021-10-14T13:37:28Z")

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You are correct, the research has now been done.

CCP is not a reputable trader of limited edition digital assets. Eve digital IP is hot garbage & will only diminish in value.

Definitely don’t pay dollar, don’t pay Plex, I’d even be hesitant in paying ISK for something that will likely be given away for free in the near future.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk, ISD & r/eve mods if you could please sticky this post I’m sure it will diminish future but blast from newer players who were dumb enough to buy eve IP assets.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/91 "2021-10-14T15:34:29Z")

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I just found out that some stores are going to have Black Friday sales again this year. I was pretty sure they said last year that they were “limited” and “last chance”. Scammers!

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Magni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_magni/32/515769_2.png) [@Dark\_Magni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Magni)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/92 "2021-10-16T07:26:25Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> I just found out that some stores are going to have Black Friday sales again this year. I was pretty sure they said last year that they were “limited” and “last chance”. Scammers!

That is the lowest effort straw man argument that is possible to make. What has this to do with the serious topic under discussion?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/93 "2021-10-16T07:52:06Z")

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Im sorry you fail to understand how illustrative examples work.

Your failure to grasp the concept doesnt make it a strawman.

I also think you arent quite sure (like many here) what a strawman argument actually is.

The case has been made:

Companies are untrustworthy

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Last Chance to buy means it wont be available tomorrow.

Making the assumption that it will never be available again to come to the conclusion that CCP is intentionally scamming people is in fact, the strawman argument here.

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/94 "2021-10-16T07:53:37Z")

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The only unique edition asset is boot.ini.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Magni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_magni/32/515769_2.png) [@Dark\_Magni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Magni)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/95 "2021-10-16T10:43:16Z")

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Alright, so what is your understanding of a limited edition issue then?

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/96 "2021-10-16T11:11:41Z")

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My understanding of something I didnt mention is irrelevent.

But youve piqued my interest so lets go there.

My understanding of Limited Edition is that its a marketting buzzphrase used to convince people of low willpower and high anxiety that the item will not be available to purchase ever again after a period of time. Its designed to hark to things like 1st Edition books.

However, all items ever produced are “limited edition” and the phrase Limited Edition holds as much legal weight as the phrase “Collector’s Edition” or “Great Value” or “By Grobtharr’s Hammer What A Savings”

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/97 "2021-10-16T13:29:39Z")

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Well, I’m sure you’ve heard of Franklin Mint. There’s a few different companies like that which have sold Limited Edition Collector’s Items. Basically only a set amount of production castings would be available for a set amount of time.

I don’t know if any of their items have ever been reissued.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/98 "2021-10-16T13:32:47Z")

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> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> I noticed that CCP is trying to get into the business of selling unique/limited edition assets for money

That’s a good business. Lots of money to be made in limited-edition assets. And we’re talking about assets owned by CCP so I don’t see the problem. If players buy them why not sell them?

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/99 "2021-10-16T16:10:26Z")

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In the case of numbered, certificated physical items, the company is at least going to the effort to place an individuality on each item. (Until recently such numbering was impossible digitally) But perhaps youve seen candy bars and chips flavours these days also marked “Limited Edition”?

It still however exists as a marketting mechanism to make the item appear as if its value will at least not depreciate.

It should also be noted that I did ask you about this whole thing first; I would take your expert view on it regarding if items were issued on the promise of not being reissued, and if, as a collector, such a promise affected your interest and what you were willing to pay.

My theory is that any such promise did not affect your interest; you would have bought the item regardless of any perceived rarity status in the future is what I would guess if asked.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/100 "2021-10-16T17:07:31Z")

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Selling one of a kind limited edition Velators for only 1 bil ISK, buy one get one free, extremely rare unique offer, get yours in Jita for a limited time only, don’t miss this once in a lifetime opportunity! 😏

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