# :facepalm: CCP is an untrustworthy purveyor of limited edition assets

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 10, 2021, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675 "2021-10-10T07:30:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/122 "2021-10-17T17:02:56Z")

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> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> To operate in the business of limited edition assets, a company must consistently and reliably stick to the terms of its limited edition supply, it must also have trust in place with its customers.

You’ve simply gotten confused here. CCP is not in the business of limited edition assets. CCP is in the business of marketing IP-related materials to a limited fanbase, and they try a number of ways to get those fans to open their wallets. One of those ways is setting up the “this is a one-time deal, you’ll miss out forever if you don’t buy now” sca… er, sale.

CCP breaks their promises when they choose to, and they don’t really care, because very few of the incoming dollars go away when they break their promises.

You have to read all of CCP’s promises and limits as having the little \* beside them, which reads:

CCP promises to do X\*

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- \*Unless/until Hilmar needs a bigger boat.

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/123 "2021-10-17T17:21:52Z")

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Lol talking about credibility and monocles in the same thread

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/124 "2021-10-17T19:24:22Z")

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> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> I have handpicked some entertaining arguments of players…

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/2/b288966735657fb3e75ef0f0ff06cee609e6de99.gif)  
It is an honour to entertain an esteemed person such as yourself.

> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> …players trying to support limited edition scamming.

I’m ever so afraid there might be one little - and of course only one - tiny, eensy-weensy misunderstanding on your part; Acknowledging that in general corporations cannot be trusted does not equal “supporting limited edition scamming” nor any other not-so-cool thing corporations might do.

Seems pretty simple to me and frankly it’s a bit surprising anybody would choose not to see that…but ok, w/e…

Corporations in general have done _a lot_ worse things than mess around with virtual items in their video games…but if that’s strangely the hill you choose to fight for…then long may you hold it against reality I guess. o7

> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#):
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> That’s what you get for starting a thread that seems to attack CCP…

Yes…because people saying “yeah, that’s how corporations often do things” is somehow vehemently defending ccp…  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab1bf990f67b132e68079a1d2849e4436d59f08e.gif)

> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#):
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> Have you noticed that those members hardly ever start threads? Why do you think that is?

I certainly wouldn’t want to assume your position. Might you be so kind as to enlighten us unwashed plebs as to why?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/125 "2021-10-17T19:28:05Z")

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I have a theory why, but I doubt its the same as his.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/126 "2021-10-17T20:20:45Z")

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@Xuxe_Xu @Ramona_McCandless

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/127 "2021-10-17T21:13:04Z")

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Huh I thought youd left the forums and the game.

That not withstanding, its an odd thing to post when I for one agree with you;

> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#):
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> ‘Corporation’ and ‘untrustworthy’ are synonymous to me.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/128 "2021-10-17T21:16:44Z")

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Well @Twijn_Sunz …you were the one who said a forum users number of posts they have created indicated something significant…if you don’t want to talk about what you were talking about, then ok, your choice I suppose.

You have made 3 topics in your 11 days on the forums. \o/ Even though one of them was locked for being a double-post, still that might indicate you are well on your way to becoming a prolific topic creator!

Probably many reasons people make topics on forums, eh? Thoughts on a particular subject, of course, informing, asking something, RP, ERP, complaining about ganking, something they find interesting, complaining about something, buy/sell stuff, recruiting, more complaining, etc etc etc.

Among the many there seem to be those who create a lot of Dunning-Kruger influenced topics. Certainly that won’t include you, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/129 "2021-10-17T21:39:34Z")

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> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#):
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> Among the many there seem to be those who create a lot of Dunning-Kruger influenced topics. Certainly that won’t include you, I’m sure

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Magni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_magni/32/515769_2.png) [@Dark\_Magni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Magni)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/130 "2021-10-17T22:10:04Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> CCP breaks their promises when they choose to, and they don’t really care

They also use absolute silence as their best and most potent weapon. Just ignore us, and we go away, and business can continue as usual.

I want everyone to understand me clearly, and distinctly. The heart and spirit of this thread is the annunciated resistance to these harmful practices. There must be a voice heard.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/131 "2021-10-17T23:23:02Z")

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> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> The heart and spirit of this thread is the annunciated resistance to these harmful practices

You can’t hold players from buying whatever they want, regardless of whether they know or not that CCP’s decision-making is as changing as a weathervane.  
There won’t be any “resistance” movement so don’t start buying the torches and pitchforks just yet.

> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> There must be a voice heard.

Your thread is that voice, we heard it. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/132 "2021-10-17T23:56:12Z")

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There are a lot of words in this topic, but nobody is saying anything. -1

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/133 "2021-10-18T00:52:33Z")

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I have failed you, Xuex. ☹ I am not multi-X worthy.  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/f/1/df1ca71ed84f9de3f8c63d1945b1ebef62030f0c.png)

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/134 "2021-10-18T01:59:00Z")

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Huh. You wasted all that time when you should have been reading up on marketing tactics 😃

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Magni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_magni/32/515769_2.png) [@Dark\_Magni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Magni)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/135 "2021-10-18T06:00:42Z")

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Almost every CCP defence Zealot has turned out to be a dummy account. Why do people hide their true identities?

> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> This is why logic and marketing classes need to be mandatory in schools. Sigh.

> **[Gix Firebrand | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/734893156/)**
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> Gix Firebrand: 70 ships destroyed and 15 ships lost.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> My understanding of Limited Edition is that its a marketting buzzphrase used to convince people of low willpower and high anxiety that the item will not be available to purchase ever again after a period of time.

> **[Ramona McCandless | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/93276556/)**
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> Ramona McCandless: 2 ships destroyed and 36 ships lost.

> [@Oskar\_Milde](#):
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> it is in their rational self-interest to make money off these limited edition items as often as they can, as the number of customers it annoys will be trivial

> **[Oskar Milde | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/467979869/)**
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> Oskar Milde: 2 ships destroyed and 7 ships lost.

> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#):
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> CCP should do what’s best for their bottom line

> **[Shipwreck Jones | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/95869853/)**
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> Shipwreck Jones: 0 ships destroyed and 6 ships lost.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/136 "2021-10-18T07:01:38Z")

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You desperation is now making you clutch at straws.

The funny thing being, I dont think any one of us disagrees that CCP is greedy.

You really have no idea how to gain support, so please, make ever more ridiculous flails.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/137 "2021-10-18T07:44:07Z")

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> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> Almost every CCP defence Zealot has turned out to be a dummy account. Why do people hide their true identities?

Because this forum is populated mostly by alts and trolls. There’s nothing serious in this forum, just trolls who love salt. Don’t take anything and anyone in this forum seriously.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/138 "2021-10-18T07:58:11Z")

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> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#):
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> Don’t take anything and anyone in this forum seriously

Like you among others for example.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/139 "2021-10-18T07:59:46Z")

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> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#):
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> Like you among others for example.

You are the others as well.

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**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/140 "2021-10-18T08:00:26Z")

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> [@Dark\_Magni](#):
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> Why do people hide their true identities?

So they troll freely.

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**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/141 "2021-10-18T08:04:25Z")

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You broke your bot, dude.

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