# :facepalm: CCP is an untrustworthy purveyor of limited edition assets **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2021, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675 "2021-10-10T07:30:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/142 "2021-10-18T08:07:58Z")
You can’t judge whether or not someone is an alt based on KB activity alone. They can be a carebear, they might not have given permission to zkillboard to fetch their kills/losses, and they might have alts that they use for other things. For example, even though Shipwreck is my first character, he is an industrialist and trader who spends most of his time docked up. Moreover, I have not given zKillboard permissions to fetch his killboard, because why would I? I also have 30+ alts which I use for various activities. However, in spite of this, I do consider shipwreck to be my main because he is my public facing character, and the one that most post people know me by. He might not be the toon that I play the most on (I don’t need to stay logged in on him that much), but he is most certainly who I am in the Eve community. [https://forums.eveonline.com/u?order=likes\_received&period=yearly](https://forums.eveonline.com/u?order=likes_received&period=yearly) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/7/c/17c3eab4493f3d3ce5eb7f0c60b3d73dd905f690.png) Anyway, there are indeed people that do post with alts. I know at least one guy who does so in order to make his spies/awoxers look like original characters, some do so because their mains have been temporarily or permanently banned (and they will usually be quite clear who they are- i.e. Ridley Rohan), some are trolls (who tend to be quite obvious that they are trolls), and, yes, we do seem to have some guys using alts in order to engage in dirty debate tactics. What is interesting, however, is just how many times regular forum members get accused of being alts. I mean, if you’re going to accuse someone of being an alt, maybe you should at least take a peak at their forum history. It’s not fool proof, as some people will post quite a bit on their alts, and people who do very little posting might just be lurkers, but it’s definitely a good place to start. Speaking of which, I wonder how many lurkers the Eve forums have. ![No P2W](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9e5bbcb978427c1d2c78ed0bf7e727425ef954f.png) I’m just kidding. We’re actually all alts of destiny corrupted. In fact, you’re an alt of destiny, you just don’t know it yet. In fact, all this posting is making me hungry for some… blueberry pie. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/c/9/9c9eef3f328be26384cb52d23fdf55415848931a.jpeg "Mexican Standoff (ft. Key & Peele)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQr0HCIN2w) Xuxe Xu, Xeux, and Xuixien are also al the same guy. I mean, their names are too similar, and the people who create alts usually like to leave clues as to who their other identities are. It’s more fun that way. ---
**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/143 "2021-10-18T08:25:44Z")
> [@Ricky\_Tock](#): > > You broke your bot, dude It’s okay, I’ll simply fix it, no big deal. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/6/4661b13c10968f13f557dd456bff6e4b142953ab.gif "GIF by FirstAndMonday - Find & Share on GIPHY") ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/144 "2021-10-18T08:54:34Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Xuxe Xu, Xeux, and Xuixien are also al the same guy. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/8/e8de4fff65c31e78306ad17a267e7360d7753382.gif) @Xeux@Xuixien [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/0/2/e02a12453b10140fea0a535fd6091382eadfb62e.jpeg "MLP:FiM - Our Cover Has Been Blown") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xxd_xmqu0) ---
**Author:** ![Oskar\_Milde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oskar_milde/32/396309_2.png) [@Oskar\_Milde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oskar_Milde)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/145 "2021-10-18T10:27:36Z")
I was advised many, many years ago to only post on the forums on an alt, so as not to arouse the wrath of the forum-dwellers against my main. These days I couldn’t care less, but I continue to post as Oskar out of habit. I must say though, it’s gotta be dire straights when you can’t respond or refute points in the conversation any longer, and are reduced to attacking the character and motivation of those who disagree with you. Did my last post not make sense? Can you actually share any link to statements such as I set out? From not knowing much at all about CCPs approach to “limited edition” assets, I now feel like I’ve got a much better understanding of how it works, and what to look out for in future. If nothing else, you’ve given me another tool to profit from, so I thank you for that! However, I think it’s a long way from having a good look into the situation and pointing out your misunderstandings to being some kind of mindless zealot. But, to each their own on that point I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/146 "2021-10-18T10:39:52Z")
Eve online is a brain dead n+1 " I am very smart" bore fest so why would these brain dead cretins not multibox the forums to rally false support for their brain dead misadventures? Senior CCP’rs also love pulling absurd player numbers & subscription numbers out of their assholes at meetings with other parties & even do so on open staged meeting so I know for a fact that CCP would not hesitate to drum up fake support for any cause they wanted to see through aswell. ---
**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/147 "2021-10-18T10:56:47Z")
Just a friendly reminder, everyone. No one knows what CCP’s internal policies, plans or preferences are unless it says CCP in front of their name. The people who claim to know are making stuff up to support their complaining. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/148 "2021-10-18T10:59:17Z")
That’s weird, I’ve mostly being doing solo and small gang stuff for over a decade in all types of space and doing just fine while enjoying myself. I must have been playing this game all wrong I guess. Should listen more to the forum sperg trolls, _they_ know what’s what. ---
**Author:** ![Oskar\_Milde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oskar_milde/32/396309_2.png) [@Oskar\_Milde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oskar_Milde)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/149 "2021-10-18T11:27:19Z")
It is entirely possible that people enjoy playing this game without being some kind of CCP plant. Not everyone blindly follows along with the hatemob you know. Also interesting that dear old Dark Magni didn’t include your fine self in his assessment of clear alts involved in this thread. Confirmation bias? Who knows… ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/150 "2021-10-18T12:22:24Z")
> [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](#): > > I know for a **fact** ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/9/e59612dd1804a69db3cf074bd3801255b81726a0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/151 "2021-10-18T21:33:53Z")
> [@Dark\_Magni](#): > > Almost every CCP defence Zealot has turned out to be a dummy account. Why do people hide their true identities? Cept its literally my main? Took a 7 year break, and I never uploaded kill mails to zkills when it was an actual mail. Plus I tended to ransom more than pop as I’d rather have the liquid ISK than have to sell stuff. But good try mate 😃 Also I’m not defending CCP so much as making light of your ignorance in logic and marketing tactics. But then again your char name is so edgy so you must be smart amirite? 😃 > [@Twijn\_Sunz](#): > > Because this forum is populated mostly by alts and trolls. There’s nothing serious in this forum, just trolls who love salt. Don’t take anything and anyone in this forum seriously. This my main bruv 😃 Come find me 😃 > [@Oskar\_Milde](#): > > I was advised many, many years ago to only post on the forums on an alt, so as not to arouse the wrath of the forum-dwellers against my main. So was I, but I only post with this dude, me main. Why? I don’t mind the wrath. Its all content and all engaging. I’ve already got a few shoutouts in game for my stances here. And rroff is catching on as a term so there’s that 😃 > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > That’s weird, I’ve mostly being doing solo and small gang stuff for over a decade in all types of space and doing just fine while enjoying myself. > > I must have been playing this game all wrong I guess. Should listen more to the forum sperg trolls, _they_ know what’s what. Preach sister. Preach. If you actually play the game, it is fun 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Magni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_magni/32/515769_2.png) [@Dark\_Magni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Magni)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/152 "2021-10-18T22:00:05Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > You can’t judge whether or not someone is an alt based on KB activity alone. They can be a carebear, they might not have given permission to zkillboard to fetch their kills/losses, and they might have alts that they use for other things. I see you are a ‘maybe/might’ reasoner. While we are on the topic of maybes and mights, I started to ponder, why does CCP not respond to my thread with any of their arguments, but then it dawned on me. **Maybe they are!** Maybe, they are using dummy alts to respond with to protect their identities. There might be some in this very thread. There are certainly some good candidates. Individuals clearly posting from dummy accounts and clearly, really very extremely, zealous in performing CCP mouth piece duties even though they are defending anti customer sentiments. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > But then again your char name is so edgy so you must be smart amirite? I want to see EVE Online survive into the future, and end up as the oldest, most persistent and best MMO that has ever been. Its not up to me its up to CCP. I am not trying to be edgy, at the heart of this thread is a well natured attempt to give feedback and influence CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/153 "2021-10-18T22:01:09Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > This my main bruv, Come find me Why, are you lost? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/154 "2021-10-18T22:18:14Z")
> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#): > > Why, are you lost? Aren’t we all? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/155 "2021-10-18T22:19:09Z")
> [@Dark\_Magni](#): > > There might be some in this very thread. There are certainly some good candidates. Individuals clearly posting from dummy accounts and clearly, really very extremely, zealous in performing CCP mouth piece duties even though they are defending anti customer sentiments. Again, you’re confusing your opinion with fact 😃 > [@Dark\_Magni](#): > > I want to see EVE Online survive into the future, and end up as the oldest, most persistent and best MMO that has ever been. Its not up to me its up to CCP. I am not trying to be edgy, at the heart of this thread is a well natured attempt to give feedback and influence CCP. Uh huh. Guess you didn’t miss the sophistry lecture huh? ---
**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/156 "2021-10-18T22:20:21Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Aren’t we all? No (Plus some characters to post that) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/157 "2021-10-18T22:22:56Z")
> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#): > > No > (Plus some characters to post that) How so? ---
**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/158 "2021-10-18T22:24:07Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > How so? Take a wild guess. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/159 "2021-10-18T22:28:41Z")
> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#): > > Take a wild guess. Ah so you got no proof that we aren’t in fact all lost. Thankee for conceding. ---
**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/160 "2021-10-18T22:32:18Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Ah so you got no proof that we aren’t in fact all lost. Thankee for conceding LOL, how small your mind is… Just because I don’t give proof doesn’t mean it’s not true, Mr. Prosecutor. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675/161 "2021-10-18T22:37:55Z")
> [@Twijn\_Sunz](#): > > LOL, how small your mind is… Just because I don’t give proof doesn’t mean it’s not true, Mr. Prosecutor. Uh. Wut. You know things are true without proof. Huh. Interesting. That Kool-Aid hits different from Mr. Jones amirite? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-an-untrustworthy-purveyor-of-limited-edition-assets/331675.md?page=9)