# CCP is at it again V2: Big Money Edition **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 22, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280 "2021-06-22T14:00:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/119 "2021-06-23T03:50:17Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > The problem is, Alphas don’t want to have to buy the Daily Skill Injectors off market to go above the 5 mil SP barrier they are at… Can you offer more than anecdotal talking points to back that up? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![WeightLifting\_Nerd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/weightlifting_nerd/32/494848_2.png) [@WeightLifting\_Nerd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WeightLifting_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/120 "2021-06-23T03:53:36Z")
I’ve been saying for years that they need to raise that 5m sp barrier to at least 10m. You can’t go very far into skills before you’re at the limit. I made an alpha account to work up to 5m. Took a couple months, but I got navigation, engineering, armor, shield, targeting and drones to alpha limit. There wasn’t much left after that, without using daily injectors. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/121 "2021-06-23T03:59:08Z")
Alphas can explore and even do combat sites in wormholes. Alphas can also do Incursions/Invasions, Faction Warfare, combat sites/DED, null ratting, various types of mining, missions to L3, some manufacturing, some station trading, etc. etc. Not to mention we utilize Alpha clones to for raising faction standings ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/122 "2021-06-23T04:45:35Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/0/1/90123623ca39781ac70c24768c0e7038cbf2c4ed.jpeg "Pod tries to buy milk in eve online") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qYcwJqNBo) ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/123 "2021-06-23T05:07:23Z")
Squishy is just mad, that for some reason or another, he couldn’t be apart of CSM 16 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Yuki\_Akiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuki_akiyo/32/198990_2.png) [@Yuki\_Akiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuki_Akiyo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/124 "2021-06-23T05:36:50Z")
who cares! i stop pay money to ccp, when they sold 1.6mio sp for $. it’s always the same with ccp: dont trust what the say. wait for what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Baatin\_Chaikai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baatin_chaikai/32/376659_2.png) [@Baatin\_Chaikai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baatin_Chaikai)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/125 "2021-06-23T06:09:23Z")
> [@Yuki\_Akiyo](#): > > ccp: dont trust what the say. wait for what they do. And keep an eye on how they do . In example here a screen shot made just a few ago in my wormhole. ![WCS-Bug_4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/a/1/2a159c1264c2f16fa20763acbe6af1a768e040a7.jpeg) Two times nonsense and one serious bug. a) there is no uncloaking device in J-Space, so there is no need for the visualization b) the ship is unclaoked, why the same display ? c) still weeks after my bug report I have still two stabs in my Epithal, and both are working fine. I’m not really worried about this silly Ad. I am pissed off , cos the waste their manpower for such a trash, as they had nothing better to do. I run a small company for (PLC/Robotic-) codings and comissioning. But if I would see that one of my guys release such BS, he would never touch a keyboard again, as long he works for me. And I don’t mean the apprentice who did this. @CCP: Just a humble hint: If you change next time in a device-class a parameter from “Any” to “single” you MUST enforce that latest with the next initialization[server restart] of your system. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Artemisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alan_artemisa/32/400134_2.png) [@Alan\_Artemisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alan_Artemisa)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/126 "2021-06-23T08:11:02Z")
Real money for skillpoints. Disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Langbaobao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/langbaobao/32/390882_2.png) [@Langbaobao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Langbaobao)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/127 "2021-06-23T08:27:25Z")
Tired of repeating it, but I guess CCP never learns. Stop selling skill points ffs. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/128 "2021-06-23T08:52:39Z")
> [@Langbaobao](#): > > Stop selling skill points ffs. Have you been saying that since the Character Bazaar? ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/129 "2021-06-23T10:53:49Z")
> [@Vicktor\_Hark](#): > > I mean…who cares? Its their game and if they wanna sell SP so what? Don’t like it go play something else? Yep. Just got Factorio. If you’re an industrialist in Eve, give this game a go! It’s available on Steam. ---
**Author:** ![Aetran\_Molou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetran_molou/32/278496_2.png) [@Aetran\_Molou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetran_Molou)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/130 "2021-06-23T14:51:52Z")
I like how they added the academy feature, and instead of actually using it they stick a super misleading mobile game ad in the faces of new players. Sounds like a surefire way to lose a majority of them over a $5 gain from a minority. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/131 "2021-06-23T14:53:08Z")
But the fraction they keep will be the ones with willing credit cards. ---
**Author:** ![Terranid\_Meester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terranid_meester/32/425207_2.png) [@Terranid\_Meester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terranid_Meester)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/132 "2021-06-23T16:42:12Z")
CCP in later years have always been willing to sell their soul for short-term gain. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/133 "2021-06-23T16:56:42Z")
> [@Terranid\_Meester](#): > > always been willing to sell their soul for short-term gain. You are a 13 year old capsuleer, so you know that’s not true. EVE started as a passion project and stayed as one for many years. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Terranid\_Meester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terranid_meester/32/425207_2.png) [@Terranid\_Meester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terranid_Meester)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/134 "2021-06-23T17:01:07Z")
I was perhaps being unfair so I amended it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/135 "2021-06-23T17:02:44Z")
> [@Terranid\_Meester](#): > > I amended it. And now I fully agree with you. They are indeed selling out as of late. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![ironman30212](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ironman30212/32/360913_2.png) [@ironman30212](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ironman30212)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/136 "2021-06-24T01:50:17Z")
I don’t think they are doing anything wrong by selling skill points like that. I think it’s great they offer those packs for players who want them and that players sell them for other to get without having to pay for them. I really enjoy that aspect of the game it makes it fair to players who maybe can’t afford to spend money on such products still have the opportunity to get them. I hope they continue to offer it and allow them to be sold to other players. Yes the other players who can’t buy these things may have to work harder but if your paying $230 dollars I’d expect you get and boost especially at that price. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/137 "2021-06-24T03:25:45Z")
> [@ironman30212](#): > > I don’t think they are doing anything wrong by selling skill points like that. I think it’s great they offer those packs for players who want them and that players sell them for other to get without having to pay for them. I really enjoy that aspect of the game it makes it fair to players who maybe can’t afford to spend money on such products still have the opportunity to get them. I hope they continue to offer it and allow them to be sold to other players. Yes the other players who can’t buy these things may have to work harder but if your paying $230 dollars I’d expect you get and boost especially at that price. but PLEX is made for that and plex doesn’t create millions of SP you can eve sell plex and buy a skill injector from other player that grinded that SP plex is fine, most of us like it , the new stuff not so much ---
**Author:** ![Chewytowel\_Haklar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chewytowel_haklar/32/420292_2.png) [@Chewytowel\_Haklar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chewytowel_Haklar)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280/138 "2021-06-24T04:33:45Z")
I thought the super fast training you got with the boosts was good enough several years ago. Perhaps selling skill points and adding the unlimited queue were just bad moves for the game. But would a company chose not to sell something that is making them money? And how many current players actually like this service? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again-v2-big-money-edition/317280.md?page=7)