# CCP killed highsec PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/433 "2018-08-03T17:06:35Z")
20 Posts have been deleted, as they were the personal Spat between two players, and the Following responses. As always, Responses to deleted posts have been Removed. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/434 "2018-08-04T07:53:21Z")
I think we need a thread about @ISD_Buldath killed the forum fun šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/435 "2018-08-04T08:46:55Z")
There was nothing fun about it. If you wouldnt say it to someone face-to-face at an EVE-Con, you shouldnt be saying it here either. Thats a fair test/standard. This is just a game, afterall. * * * HS aggression mechanics are a mess, where each group cock-blocks the other on any proposed change. The irony is that if each group gave a little ground, there would be more overall HS PvP for all. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/436 "2018-08-04T17:14:15Z")
You realize nobody is blocking anybody on changes right? CCP will make changes or not at their discretion regardless of the many thousand post long threadnaughts ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/437 "2018-08-04T17:57:19Z")
> [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](#): > > You realize nobody is blocking anybody on changes right? > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > each group cock-blocks the other on any proposed change. Read accurately. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/438 "2018-08-05T06:42:47Z")
The point stands ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/439 "2018-08-05T12:19:42Z")
Yes, the point stands that various groups are cock-blocking each other on change in HS aggression mechanics ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/440 "2018-08-05T12:23:56Z")
Look at that gendered language youā€™re using. And you whine at me for using ā€˜twatā€™? lol ![images](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/2/027b01c9c768e47dd9630d65195eaa47a3950bc0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/441 "2018-08-05T12:26:16Z")
If you two go one like this will people start calling you husband and wife. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/442 "2018-08-05T13:16:57Z")
Start? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/443 "2018-08-05T13:39:28Z")
Thankfully its not me being wed to him by the group anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/444 "2018-08-06T06:17:52Z")
šŸ˜„šŸ˜ŖšŸ˜„šŸ˜ŖšŸ˜„ ---
**Author:** ![Ari\_Kolapa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ari_kolapa/32/78937_2.png) [@Ari\_Kolapa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ari_Kolapa)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/445 "2018-08-07T10:31:40Z")
I really like the guys that donā€™t get that the times have changed recently and that this means that ccp will play the "even more casual and than some more casual on top " card in the futureā€¦ šŸ™‚ For those people the coming decisions of ccp will be a surprise and the special snowflakes will be crushed out of their cozy neck in the woods with a bulldozerā€¦ But do not blame ccp,blame those people that donā€™t WANT to see what has to come and that want to avoid ANY change of the gameā€¦their salt is not worth the effortā€¦just ignore them or laugh at them,because they got their buts powered for so many years that they thought it was their birthrightā€¦ Noā€¦times have changes buddiesā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/446 "2018-08-07T11:15:48Z")
> [@Ari\_Kolapa](#): > > Noā€¦times have changes buddiesā€¦ Theyā€™ve changed so much that you deleted your character. Dead people donā€™t get to have an opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/447 "2018-08-07T12:50:11Z")
Just wait till your choosen niche is unintentionally gutted of meaningful content when an adjacent mechanic is changed without proper consideration you brave anonymous npc. ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/448 "2018-08-07T13:07:36Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > Just wait till your choose niche is unintentionally gutted of meaningful content when an adjacent mechanic is changed without proper consideration you brave anonymous npc. Given how carebear CCP has become over the years and how often these ā€œunintendedā€ side effects happen, Iā€™m not so sure theyā€™re actually unintended. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/449 "2018-08-07T13:07:39Z")
> [@Ari\_Kolapa](#): > > I really like the guys that donā€™t get that the times have changed recently and that this means that ccp will play the "even more casual and than some more casual on top " card in the futureā€¦ šŸ™‚ > For those people the coming decisions of ccp will be a surprise and the special snowflakes will be crushed out of their cozy neck in the woods with a bulldozerā€¦ Carebears have been trying the ā€Eve will die if it doesnā€™t give me a safe spaceā€ card since the beginning without success so I donā€™t know why you think it is going to work now. In fact, given how little development resources are being spent on Eve compared to the past, CCP couldnā€™t turn Eve into a casual, carebear paradise even if they wanted to. The ship has sailed - Eve is largely what it will be until the server shuts down. Sure, there will be small changes and some new features (like Abyssal space) will pander the masses largely unsuccessfully, but the core of the game is set and isnā€™t going anywhere. CCP doesnā€™t have enough resources to fix the real problems with the game. They certainly donā€™t have enough dev-power to redesign the game in any significant way at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/450 "2018-08-07T13:22:23Z")
This one was, CCP Foxfour on his way out of CCP opened up the API to allow third party sites to write into your contacts basically allowed sites like ā€œset them redā€ to give you an instant and full watchlist with a simple copy/paste of a corp/alliance name. This _was_ all kinds of broken and it was done explicitly to force the hand of the game design team who up until this point had the watchlist on the long finger. This _was_ aimed at the lads that hunt supers and _absolutely_ no thought was given to the surrounding areas that relied upon it for content i.e. any aggressive HS group that wasnā€™t a bunch of hub humping war spamming degenerats. Without any reasonable time period to Ballance the surrounding mechanics the design team understandibly made the judgment call of just making watchlists mutual rather than fecking about with everything that damned thing was adjacent to. Now I Know this to be the case because I literally heard it from Foxfour himself over a pint (sound lad actually). ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/451 "2018-08-07T13:52:33Z")
So what youā€™re saying is that CCP is incompetent, has zero PVP experience and only listens&reacts to the CSM null lobbyists. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/452 "2018-08-07T14:02:49Z")
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