# CCP killed highsec PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/555 "2018-08-15T12:00:59Z")
Again this isn’t a ganking thread nor is it a _definition 101_ class It is a highsec pvp thread like mentioned in the title. Take your baiting elsewhere ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/556 "2018-08-15T12:06:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Wat. > > Ganking and suicide ganking are distinct. > Pointing that out is just stating a fact. “Water is a liquid.” It, too, is a statement of a fact. But do you think it belongs here? Not really. When you then lecture Dom on ganking for I don’t know how many times and he keeps defying you, then your comment is no longer a simple statement of fact, but it takes on a form of harassment, and you begin to derail threads for your own pleasure. Maybe rethink why you want to post on the forum. Is it to fight the comments of others, or to make some kind of contribution most of us can get behind? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/557 "2018-08-15T12:11:57Z")
Thanks for proving my point. As shown above, suicide gankers are the ones deliberately sabotaging any discussion on fixing HS PvP mechanics to facilitate more PvP there. The first step to a solution, is acknowledging the mechanical difference between ganking and suicide ganking. They know that, and want to avoid that at all cost. They deliberately try to lump suicide ganking under ganking, as the first shield, and to ambiguate on wardec mechanics by extension. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/558 "2018-08-15T12:18:34Z")
At least gankers don’t do threads about the amount of useless replies they have _drops mic_ Anywho I’m excited to hear if the CSM and CCP discuss about wars at the next roundtable, and if they do, hopefully they’ll have taken a look at the multiple Google docs full of people’s ideas ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/559 "2018-08-15T12:20:48Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > gankers See? He did it again. Conflating suicide ganking with ganking, though they are factually different per game mechanics. Its blatantly obvious, repeated and endemic. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/560 "2018-08-15T12:27:34Z")
@CCP_Falcon can you please cleanup these last few comments? There’s been a poor attempt at derailing this thread into another ganking thread… Tia ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/561 "2018-08-15T12:59:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > As shown above, suicide gankers are Where? ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/562 "2018-08-15T14:22:06Z")
DMC hates me now. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/563 "2018-08-15T15:47:08Z")
And now they call for the thread to be closed…, so predictable! ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/564 "2018-08-15T15:48:19Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > they Who is _they_? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/565 "2018-08-15T15:51:33Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > @CCP_Falcon can you please cleanup these last few comments? There’s been a poor attempt at derailing this thread into another ganking thread… > [@Mortlake](#): > > I like b **anal** , but this thread has become awful and needs to die. You do know that when ever CCP Falcon comes into a thread at the invitation of, (cough!) suicide gankers it gets closed down, it is like the sun rising in the morning, night follows day even. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/566 "2018-08-15T15:52:47Z")
So you’re implying he is biased towards “gankers”? Oh boy… @Mortlake ain’t it fun when they throw all highsec pvp’ers in the same basket? 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/567 "2018-08-15T15:53:39Z")
Yup. Look at my killboard. I’m a prolific suicide ganker. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/568 "2018-08-15T15:54:57Z")
You look quite inactive 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/569 "2018-08-15T15:58:15Z")
Completely inactive. Good job, though. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/570 "2018-08-15T19:22:35Z")
Your killboard is everything that is wrong with hisec war deckers, nine losses means you are pretty risk averse. Only good job in terms of the few remaining harmless noobs blundering around hisec, like me at the moment that is, at a guess ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/571 "2018-08-15T19:25:51Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > nine losses means you are pretty risk averse. Or maybe he was better than whoever was trying to shoot him? I can’t count the number of times where I was solo, and outnumbered by more than 5 guys, and still made it out with killmails and the enemy fleeing 😂 A kb never has and never will tell the whole story 😉 Nice try tho ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/572 "2018-08-15T19:27:13Z")
8 Losses, I rest my case, if you tend to shoot harmless noobs all the time then what do you expect. This is what is killing hisec evidently. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/573 "2018-08-15T19:32:14Z")
> [@White\_Knight\_2B](#): > > if you tend to shoot harmless noobs all the time then what do you expect. I tend to go after loud mouths who then suddenly dissapear (read: log off) when I come within 5 jumps of them I’m still waiting for you to come pop me since I’m a CODE. Agent btw (unless you’re just another one of those big mouths 😂) ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/574 "2018-08-15T19:33:14Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > I’m still waiting for you to come pop me Internet tough guy time, perhaps 1v1 at the sun next? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=28)