# CCP killed highsec PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/737 "2018-08-16T19:48:42Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > the exodus of wardecced haulers was awesome to see. Whilst you no doubt flew happy in an NPC Corp, right? ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/738 "2018-08-16T19:51:08Z")
nothing wrong with a bit of auld schadenfreude now is there. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/739 "2018-08-16T19:52:39Z")
Nope, Jonah has never been in an NPC corp for more than a few hours or so, before CCP nerfed one of my income streams by removing the need for standings to anchor a POS I created and sold corps with +7 or better standings to people wishing to plant a POS in highsec. My other 2 characters are specialised alts that rarely undock, let alone haul. The only times he has been in an NPC corp is because my income method was make corp, wait 7 days, sell corp, leave corp after transferring CEO. Make new corp and repeat; between leaving and creating you end up in an NPC corp. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/740 "2018-08-16T19:53:00Z")
He did the “right thing” by doing so. But that just goes to confirm how broken HS PvP is. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > My other 2 characters are specialised alts that rarely undock, let alone haul. Funny. I guess you undock even less than me then. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/741 "2018-08-16T19:59:31Z")
I’m currently dabbling in mostly station trading and arbitrage; I have no need to undock at the moment, 3rd party haulers and jump clones are awesome sauce. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/742 "2018-08-16T21:07:20Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > 3rd party haulers and jump clones are awesome sauce. NPC Corp alts. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/743 "2018-08-16T21:24:20Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > NPC Corp alts. So what if they are? They ain’t mine. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/744 "2018-08-16T21:45:19Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > NPC Corp alts. > > So what if they are? They ain’t mine. Nobody sane hauls except in a NPC Corp. Thats part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/745 "2018-08-16T21:54:28Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Nobody sane hauls except in a NPC Corp. That’s a bold statement to be making. By your standards [I’m obviously insane](https://i.imgur.com/1ek2j0E.jpg), because when I haul, I haul with Jonah. Thank you for your diagnosis Mr Internet Psychologist. Should we add personal responsibility and how not to die to gankers while hauling to the ever growing list of things that you don’t understand? ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Chieve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peta_chieve/32/260061_2.png) [@Peta\_Chieve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peta_Chieve)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/746 "2018-08-16T21:59:09Z")
Cry me a river, why don’t you move to 0.0 space of some variety and actually risk something. Regardless how much HS carebears love trump, picking one sided fights isn’t something to be proud of, get rich from sure, but me thinks your ego is larger than your killboard. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/747 "2018-08-16T22:05:12Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > By your standards [I’m obviously insane](https://i.imgur.com/1ek2j0E.jpg), because when I haul, I haul with Jonah. Thank you for your diagnosis Mr Internet Psychologist. Ok then. You aren’t insane. But you are stupid. There is no rational reason not to conduct hauling under NPC corp flag. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/748 "2018-08-16T22:07:18Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > But you are stupid. No. I’m careful about what and how I haul… ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Chieve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peta_chieve/32/260061_2.png) [@Peta\_Chieve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peta_Chieve)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/749 "2018-08-16T22:10:14Z")
I don’t like NPC corp hauling, it’s a pain, having corp hangers for exchanging stuff and a corp wallet makes hauling with multiple toons a lot easier. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/750 "2018-08-16T22:15:25Z")
I don’t have haulers in npc corps either I guess that makes me stupid too 😂 Ftr: I only lost one in Jita because I wasn’t using my instadock, cost me the ship plus fitting But I somehow didn’t make a thread about it on the forums XD ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/751 "2018-08-16T22:33:41Z")
NPC Corps should be abolished. ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Chieve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peta_chieve/32/260061_2.png) [@Peta\_Chieve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peta_Chieve)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/752 "2018-08-16T23:23:34Z")
But then all the sane people wouldn’t be able to haul? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/753 "2018-08-17T00:05:56Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > NPC Corps should be abolished. ironic since it’s where you spent your whole EVE career XD ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/754 "2018-08-17T05:39:40Z")
I ask to have an Eve chat with someone in this thread and next thing I have someone claim that I am that player. I bet that was Dom Arkaral’s newly created alt, you really are a deeply flawed person Dom. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/755 "2018-08-17T07:01:57Z")
Started a war there recently. Guy simply surrendered and closed his corp. He did this to save a few anchored cans. Surely you shouldnt be able to surrender before the war goes live? So much for non risk adverse pvp against “people who can defend themselves”. They really have killed it. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/756 "2018-08-17T07:12:23Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > who can defend themselves That is the issue, you need to select your targets better. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=35) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=37)