# CCP killed highsec PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/805 "2018-08-17T16:56:56Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > do you know what dum dum, ■■■■ off. Erm Nope I don’t take orders from whiny people who don’t have a horse in the race 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/806 "2018-08-17T17:19:57Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Erm > > Nope > I don’t take orders from whiny people who don’t have a horse in the race 😉 Avoiding the question: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > The question is why are hisec war deckrs so special that what happens everywhere else in the game cannot happen to them, so what makes them so special that you get special protection against other bigger entities and that no one can force a fight on you that you have to take or lose something of value, why are hisec war deckers special? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/807 "2018-08-17T17:26:22Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > The question is why are hisec war deckrs so special that what happens everywhere else in the game cannot happen to them What? You talking about cyno, hotdrops, holes being rolled, sov, plex, pipebombs? Highsec is nothing like other areas of space, you should know since _you spent time doing highsec wars_ (lol) > [@Dracvlad](#): > > so what makes them so special that you get special protection against other bigger entities Lol, they don’t have any protection against anyone That’s just being a clueless idiot lol > [@Dracvlad](#): > > no one can force a fight on you No one can force fights on anyone, you’re just being a troll now (moreso with your edits lol) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/808 "2018-08-17T18:42:21Z")
The question is why are hisec war deckrs so special that what happens everywhere else in the game cannot happen to them, so what makes them so special that you get special protection against other bigger entities and that no one can force a fight on you that you have to take or lose something of value, why are hisec war deckers special? You continue to bluster around the question keep avoiding mate because it is as funny as hell. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Highsec is nothing like other areas of space, you should know since _you spent time doing highsec wars_ (lol) There are five distinct areas of space. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Lol, they don’t have any protection against anyone > That’s just being a clueless idiot lol Your ignorance is not a defence. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > No one can force fights on anyone, you’re just being a troll now (moreso with your edits lol) All through this game is the basic principal of forcing fights and loss on others, why are war deckers in hisec not subject to the same as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/809 "2018-08-17T18:53:30Z")
I answered it despite it being vague as ■■■■ If you want people to properly answer your questions, ask them properly. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > All through this game is the basic principal of forcing fights and loss on others, why are war deckers in hisec not subject to the same as everyone else. They are subject to the same stuff as everyone else. Saying otherwise is just being a troll… If you’re too bad at the game to force fights on mercs, that’s your problem. Not theirs. Lol ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/810 "2018-08-17T19:00:40Z")
dum dum you are evading the question, you make a point about structures: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Tying anything to structures really… And yet almost everything is tied to structures: then you say: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > The sandbox stops being a sandbox the moment you force something onto people Which makes no sense at all. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > E: also as mentioned so many times > Doing so would give a greater advantage to large groups while making smaller groups suffer even more than they do now… This is the cracker, in every other part of the game this is not a factor, why should hisec war deckers be different to every other entity in the game. The sov system was adjusted to give smaller entities a chance, jump fatigue was also applied to reduce the impact of larger entities, entosis penalties were applied to bigger ships. However When the Goons took Delve from my alliance before I joined they dropped Supers on nodes. I will repeat, why are hisec war deckers so special to deserve a different approach to everyone else in the game? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/811 "2018-08-17T19:15:43Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > And yet almost everything is tied to structures: Nope Anything a citadel can do, a station can also do. So citadels are redundant in that matter. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Which makes no sense at all. It makes perfect sense. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > E: also as mentioned so many times > Doing so would give a greater advantage to large groups while making smaller groups suffer even more than they do now… This applies to every area of space. If you hide anything behind an isk wall, the rich and big will have the advantage over the small and poor. Stop being daft. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I will repeat, why are hisec war deckers so special to deserve a different approach to everyone else in the game? They’re not. I’m not saying that either. You simply see what you want to see simple man… Same thing happened in the cloaky thread (which is fine btw) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/812 "2018-08-17T19:23:32Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Nope > Anything a citadel can do, a station can also do. > So citadels are redundant in that matter. Makes no sense at all in terms of content drivers, are you seriously that dense. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > It makes perfect sense. Let me repeat it: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > The sandbox stops being a sandbox the moment you force something onto people it is a nothing nonsense statement. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > This applies to every area of space. If you hide anything behind an isk wall, the rich and big will have the advantage over the small and poor. > > Stop being daft. Are you low ISK tanking here? > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > They’re not. I’m not saying that either. You simply see what you want to see simple man… You evaded the question: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I will repeat, why are hisec war deckers so special to deserve a different approach to everyone else in the game? > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Same thing happened in the cloaky thread (which is fine btw) What tangent are you wittering on about now to evade the question dum dum. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/813 "2018-08-17T19:34:37Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > it is a nothing nonsense statement. If you say so You’re just trying to nitpick my every clear explanation because you’re too dumb to understand what’s in your face > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I didn’t like your answer to my question, so I’m going to repeat the same crap until you say what I want to hear You in a nutshell, in every possible thread. Have fun trying to get me what you want simple man. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/814 "2018-08-17T19:39:13Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > If you say so > You’re just trying to nitpick my every clear explanation because you’re too dumb to understand what’s in your face > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Nope > Anything a citadel can do, a station can also do. > So citadels are redundant in that matter. WTF is that about? > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Tying wars to structures shouldn’t be a solution > Tying anything to structures really… WTF is that about? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I will repeat, why are hisec war deckers so special to deserve a different approach to everyone else in the game? It is a simple question, but not simple enough for you it seems? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/815 "2018-08-17T19:43:41Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > WTF is that about? It’s about what’s written Bye now Dracbot ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/816 "2018-08-17T19:49:16Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > It’s about what’s written It makes no sense at all: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Nope > Anything a citadel can do, a station can also do. > So citadels are redundant in that matter. and > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Tying wars to structures shouldn’t be a solution > Tying anything to structures really… and > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > The sandbox stops being a sandbox the moment you force something onto people They are rather dum dum. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/817 "2018-08-17T20:07:20Z")
Wow this thread has exploded :explodyparrot: since you left it @Dracvlad I wonder what would happen if you stayed. 😛 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![White\_Knight\_2B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_knight_2b/32/186199_2.png) [@White\_Knight\_2B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Knight_2B)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/818 "2018-08-17T20:12:50Z")
Dracvlad has been dum dum’d ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/819 "2018-08-17T20:17:54Z")
Nothing of value was lost F in local ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/820 "2018-08-17T20:32:41Z")
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