# CCP killed highsec PvP

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/873 "2018-08-19T16:54:00Z")

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Why would you fight back then and not in another way?  
You really arent very smart, are you.

There are many ways to win a fight, not all of them involve blasters.

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**Author:** ![hesus\_Piolot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hesus_piolot/32/89475_2.png) [@hesus\_Piolot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hesus_Piolot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/874 "2018-08-19T16:54:02Z")

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tears no just stating a game play issue was about cloaky camping people will win and lose across the game but its a win win situation

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**Author:** ![hesus\_Piolot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hesus_piolot/32/89475_2.png) [@hesus\_Piolot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hesus_Piolot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/875 "2018-08-19T16:55:25Z")

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ramona as always childish comments from people who sit behind a screen all brave i am stating issue that are being caused for the game

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/876 "2018-08-19T16:56:31Z")

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Yes, you are being childish.

You are also not adding anything to this conversation.

If you believe one person cant make a difference, then you dont think very much.

Why make such daft statements?

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/877 "2018-08-19T16:57:05Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> inb4 he thinks you’re my alt 😂

My today’s “In Before”-list:

- In before someone asks, how did this thread gain so many replies again? I was only gone for 5 minutes.
- In before someone blames others for destroying threads.
- In before 🔒

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**Author:** ![hesus\_Piolot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hesus_piolot/32/89475_2.png) [@hesus\_Piolot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hesus_Piolot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/878 "2018-08-19T16:58:38Z")

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its not about that i see your using your alt here as you main your to much of a coward to use that in open forum .

this issue is cloaky camping there is no risk for the camper that was the main issue

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/879 "2018-08-19T16:58:43Z")

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> [@Whitehound](#):
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> In before 🔒

it’s been asking for it for the past 800 posts or so lmao

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/880 "2018-08-19T16:59:52Z")

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This is my main.

And no, the subject is High Sec PvP.

I think you are in the wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![hesus\_Piolot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hesus_piolot/32/89475_2.png) [@hesus\_Piolot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hesus_Piolot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/881 "2018-08-19T17:00:14Z")

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i sec pvp ok pvp is fine

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/882 "2018-08-19T17:44:58Z")

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Can’t win if you don’t fight back.  
check our kb

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**Author:** ![hesus\_Piolot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hesus_piolot/32/89475_2.png) [@hesus\_Piolot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hesus_Piolot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/883 "2018-08-19T17:53:53Z")

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i agree but people tend to attack people who cant fight back in large groups

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/884 "2018-08-19T18:45:24Z")

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Seriously, kant =/= wonte

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/885 "2018-08-20T11:14:04Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Seriously, cant =/= wont

That was bothering me, it should be ‘can’t’ as compared to ‘will not’, ‘wont’ means something else, ‘won’t’ is perhaps what you were looking to use, but I think ‘will not’ tends to express it better.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/886 "2018-08-20T15:33:19Z")

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> [@hesus\_Piolot](#):
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> i agree but people tend to attack people who cant fight back in large groups

That sounds like a great strategy if you are at war with someone.

EVE is not a MOBA with balanced fair fights on a levelled playing field. It is more like a strategy game where the battle is most often won before it starts.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/887 "2018-08-20T17:14:24Z")

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> [@hesus\_Piolot](#):
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> i agree but people tend to attack people who cant fight back in large groups

![sin](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/6/d62e139feaddef8013365094bd2aba2260a64797.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/888 "2018-08-20T17:20:50Z")

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> [@Ari\_Kolapa](#):
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> no this is the game where some people think that any change to the game will kill the game even if this change is wanted and necessary because they think their way to see the game is carved into stone for all time…

We all want more PVP.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/889 "2018-08-20T18:09:11Z")

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Killing is evil, evil is sin.

Sins are forgiven so get shootin’

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/9/99e29b49be05024f77105e1987ced95ee004b091.png)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/890 "2018-08-20T18:43:52Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> EVE is not a MOBA with balanced fair fights on a levelled playing field. It is more like a strategy game where **the battle is most often won before it starts**.

This is very true, and the part I have made bold is also important for people who complain about people who refuse to fight. Not a point scoring exercise by the way before you know who starts ranting at me again…

> [@hesus\_Piolot](#):
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> i agree but people tend to attack people who cant fight back in large groups

Goal post moving via pictures by Mortlake and Jonah, tut tut…

He never said it was a sin, he was making the same point that White Knight 2B made earlier which is that in the main target selection by the majority of war deckers sucks. If you as a big group war dec a one man corp and you expect them to fight back and then complain that they do not, then who is at fault? A smart player does not feed, most people left in hisec understand that.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/891 "2018-08-20T18:51:14Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> the main target selection by the majority of war deckers sucks.

The goal of the war deccer is to kill people  
He doesn’t care if the selection “sucks”

If he gets paid, he cares even less…  
Because any content is better than no content at all

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> smart player

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> hisec

The only smart people in highsec are the ones doing the killing, not those hugging rocks 😉

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/892 "2018-08-20T19:07:08Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Goal post moving via pictures by Mortlake and Jonah, tut tut…

I took advantage of Mortlake’s post for some subtle satire, when you figure out who I’m poking fun at with the picture you’ll find it’s actually on topic, albeit in a roundabout way.

No goalposts were harmed or moved in the production of this post, some bugger had already stolen them.

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