# CCP killed highsec PvP

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/913 "2018-08-21T13:25:30Z")

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Deflecting again

That’s cute

> [@Mala\_Zvitorepka](#):
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> if a 20 member corp can terrorize 100 20 member corps, there is something wrong with those 100 corps 🙂

Right on

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/914 "2018-08-21T13:27:29Z")

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> [@Mala\_Zvitorepka](#):
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> if a 20 member corp can terrorize 100 20 member corps, there is something wrong with those 100 corps 🙂

Indy, or noob corps mainly, it is pretty obvious…, didn’t you realise that?

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**Author:** ![NeoFriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neofriend/32/87343_2.png) [@NeoFriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NeoFriend)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/915 "2018-08-21T14:09:18Z")

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If they unite, then 2000 ventures will take on a vindicator even if he has two guardians by his side =)

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/916 "2018-08-21T14:15:06Z")

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100 20 man corps can keep a 20 man corp docked up indefinitely tbh

There’s just so many people scared of pvp lol

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/917 "2018-08-21T14:23:49Z")

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> [@NeoFriend](#):
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> If they unite, then 2000 ventures will take on a vindicator even if he has two guardians by his side =)

Blimey, I would like to meet the person who could organise that across 100 20 men hisec corps! Joking aside that would be just incredible leadership skills which I would be in awe at.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/918 "2018-08-21T20:47:00Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Blimey, I would like to meet the person who could organise that across 100 20 men hisec corps! Joking aside that would be just incredible leadership skills which I would be in awe at.

Why is the 20 man corp even able to wardec for no reason…it’s like personal bounty…this should be bounded to something done wrong by someone and not to a “i don’t like the way your eyebrows look” kind of cause…same to wardecs…don’t do anything wrong,can’t be wardecced…

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/919 "2018-08-21T23:24:17Z")

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Game mechanics say they cant unite. They cant cross Corp rep even when in a warded. even if they are both fighting the same target as it counts as neutral assistance and they get made suspect. Which then means they get dogpiled.  
So consider that it’s actually game mechanics discouraging them.

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/920 "2018-08-22T00:03:02Z")

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If you’re Allied in to a war and you rep your Allie while they have a PvP timer for an engagement with the other side you go suspect.  
You really shouldn’t but you do.

If you’re not involved in the war at all and you do the same you go suspect.  
You really should be concorded.

It’s not just war that’s in need of attention.  
Everything adjacent to it needs it too

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/921 "2018-08-22T03:35:37Z")

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Define ‘wrong’? What if I don’t want you mining in my system because you’re strip mining everything before my guys can get to it? What if you’re running all the sites in my system before my guys can get to them? Why can’t I have the option of wardeccing you for that, or even for ‘just because’? This is EVE, not WoW, not BDO.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/922 "2018-08-22T06:02:48Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Why is the 20 man corp even able to wardec for no reason…it’s like personal bounty…this should be bounded to something done wrong by someone and not to a “i don’t like the way your eyebrows look” kind of cause…same to wardecs…don’t do anything wrong,can’t be wardecced…

I am in favour of people being able to war dec you because they don’t like your portrait, if they feel like it, however I was looking for restrictions on the sheer number of war decs an enity can do or creating more meaningful consequences which I detailed above.

In truth the most epic content comes from people not liking each other, an emotional response or attitude often develops better content, which is why certain people try so hard to create one.

> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> Game mechanics say they cant unite. They cant cross Corp rep even when in a warded. even if they are both fighting the same target as it counts as neutral assistance and they get made suspect. Which then means they get dogpiled.  
> So consider that it’s actually game mechanics discouraging them.

Very much so, perhaps if they were allowed to co-operate better by having a mechanic within their own war dec to ally directly in a meaningful way with another corp or alliance war decked by the same aggressor so they can rep each other etc., would make things better.

> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#):
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> If you’re Allied in to a war and you rep your Allie while they have a PvP timer for an engagement with the other side you go suspect.  
> You really shouldn’t but you do.
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> If you’re not involved in the war at all and you do the same you go suspect.  
> You really should be concorded.
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> It’s not just war that’s in need of attention.  
> Everything adjacent to it needs it too

Very much so, I think that being able to rep each other if you have been war decked by the same aggressor would be a start.

> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#):
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> Define ‘wrong’? What if I don’t want you mining in my system because you’re strip mining everything before my guys can get to it? What if you’re running all the sites in my system before my guys can get to them? Why can’t I have the option of wardeccing you for that, or even for ‘just because’? **This is EVE, not WoW, not BDO.**

Remiel, you said pretty much what I said, but did you need the last bolded sentence? The thing is that many defenders have no idea why they are war decked and don’t even see the aggressor during the war dec, so they get fed up with it happening again and again, which develops into the feeling that they need some mechanic, it is all about the lameness of blanket war decs causing that attitude.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/923 "2018-08-22T08:30:41Z")

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> [@Mala\_Zvitorepka](#):
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> the number of Wardecs a single corp can initiate should be capped

No, go away.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/924 "2018-08-22T09:12:10Z")

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No u.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/925 "2018-08-22T09:24:33Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> > [@Mala\_Zvitorepka](#):
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> > the number of Wardecs a single corp can initiate should be capped
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> No, go away.

No, they should make the location of all war targets visible on the map when a war is declared mutual. It reduces the need to spam wardecs when one knows where to look for targets.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/926 "2018-08-22T09:30:04Z")

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So basically, its impossible to have an adult conversation with you without you using any reply to have a dig at someone you dont like.

Telling you to go away when you just want to argue about semantics isnt trolling, its being done with your attitude.

Id appreciate it if you didnt reply, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/927 "2018-08-22T10:17:29Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Id appreciate it if you didnt reply, thank you

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/7/e/17ea12431be05afa2716b6023d648cea96a67c9f.jpeg "doyletea full") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk3ds-VFKBs)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/928 "2018-08-22T11:07:02Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Id appreciate it if you didnt reply, thank you.

My attitude sucks with people who have an attitude that sucks. I explained why I corrected your English because I thought that other poster was not a native English speak and wont is very different to won’t. If you want to get all but hurt about it then be my guest.

And I will reply if I feel like it, and for good measure I also explained why I replied to you as I did in terms of target selection issues, because you were asking if it was right that they surrendered before the war started, personally I think that is broken and is something I would adjust.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/929 "2018-08-22T11:49:50Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> My attitude sucks with people who have an attitude

Nah  
Your attitude just sucks with people you disagree with

You’re trying to justify something that just can’t be justified lol

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/930 "2018-08-22T12:24:47Z")

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Hello to my little stalker, getting in a bit of stalking are you.

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/931 "2018-08-22T12:27:43Z")

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EDIT: Really? This was flagged? HTFU.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/932 "2018-08-22T12:28:04Z")

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You should take your own advice mate, but if that was aimed at dum dum then I would agree with you.

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