# CCP killed highsec PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/993 "2018-08-23T05:23:43Z")
Limited watchlist and a wardec cap are not mutually exclusive changes. They can be implemented simultaneously. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/994 "2018-08-23T06:52:00Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Limited watchlist and a wardec cap are not mutually exclusive changes. > They can be implemented simultaneously. It’s not about implementation. It’s about the consequence of changes. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/995 "2018-08-23T07:33:08Z")
i faught 10:1 in Hek, in a tornado, against eve uni,as -10, with a few hundred (!) bookmarks to bounce around in. Only got one or two, but the adrenaline was worth it. It’s a game. When you’re afraid oflosing ■■■■ and can’t figure out tactics to deal with masses, then … sure … you’re not cut out for this… or space poor … or a coward. Being afraid of fighting against the odds and being afraid of losing in general for whatever reason makes you a loser, and or a coward, **because** it’s a video game. You earn respect for daring and earn smacktalk for not. In real life i’dagree that whatever strategy helps you staying alive is the best one, but apparently you’re not aware that EVE is not real life. With your logic, everyone who doesn’t dare doing PvE without looking up a guide for running them safely is smart. Nope, they’re actually boring cowards afraid of losing their ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/996 "2018-08-23T08:43:45Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > It’s about the consequence of changes. All change has consequence. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/997 "2018-08-23T08:45:37Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > If it has indeed been wrecked, it has been wrecked with style and not pointless pedantry. I dont think pics of beer qualify as style. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/998 "2018-08-23T10:07:35Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > All change has consequence. So you know. Do you then think about all the consequences? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/999 "2018-08-23T11:05:29Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > All change has consequence. > > So you know. Do you then think about all the consequences? Yes, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1000 "2018-08-23T11:24:59Z")
True , they don’t. Guinness however is an _entirly_ different matter. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1001 "2018-08-23T11:39:50Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Yes, of course. List some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1002 "2018-08-23T12:36:33Z")
This is the best thread ever. Has anyone else noticed that you can track specific members’ sleep times judging by the gaps in between their ‘no, YOU are wrong’ posts? Just saying and stuff. Don’t mind me, I got the JUMBO popcorn now. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1003 "2018-08-23T13:28:29Z")
Omar shut the door! You’re letting all the forumfoo out! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1004 "2018-08-23T15:51:16Z")
They’re not particularly stylish but infinitely more so than pointless pedantry ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1005 "2018-08-23T15:54:00Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > List some of them. Depends on the changes in question. Ive made a comprehensive, multifaceted proposal that balances out in equity for most in HS, whether carebear or PvP oriented. What concerns me, though, is when you ask “list concerns”, its asking me to prove a negative. The concerns/issued are considered in my draft, and inform it. I can formulate my draft again tomorrow, and post it here, again, as I have in threads long forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1006 "2018-08-23T16:13:18Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I can formulate my draft again tomorrow, and post it here, again, as I have in threads long forgotten. I’m only interested in what you think the consequences of a wardec limit are. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1008 "2018-08-23T16:16:59Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Thats ironic, since you just repeated yourself Given that you’re the leading authority on repetitive statements… Who peed in your cornflakes? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1009 "2018-08-23T16:18:22Z")
More purposeful derailment, and trolling, above. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1010 "2018-08-23T16:23:13Z")
It’s not trolling if it’s true, that you frequently make repetitive statements is easily verifiable; but go ahead and report it if it soothes your ego. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1011 "2018-08-23T19:27:49Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > you frequently make repetitive statements is easily verifiable This is a nonsense myth. I express my views always in context, with variation. This infuriates players trying to misdirect the topic away from questioning their interests, and/or gishposting my posts up the thread with random BS. Doesnt work, cos I will always come back. If you want repetetive statements, look to vested interest posters that repeatedly troll/wreck threads with the same nonsense. You went into beer pics, which is somewhat novel, but derailment/off-topic nonetheless, as is your post above. If i cba, I might check your post history tomorrow, but Im pretty sure I already know what I will find there. * * * TLDR: You want this thread wrecked, cos you dont want HS PvP changes. Ill review your posts in this thread tomorrow, but Im already quite sure atleast 50% of them are just to derail it. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1012 "2018-08-23T19:36:11Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > This is a nonsense myth. Yeah nah Anyone that ever saw you in any thread knows how broken your bot is when proven wrong You can’t face it, which is hilarious on its own > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > This infuriates players trying to misdirect the topic away from questioning their interests, and/or gishposting my posts up the thread with random BS. So, you’re basically infuriating yourself That’s neat > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If you want repetetive statements, look to vested interest posters (aka me) that repeatedly troll/wreck threads with the same nonsense. Ftfy > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If i cba, I might check your post history tomorrow, but Im pretty sure I already know what I will find there. @Dracvlad there’s your daily stalker attention 😂😂😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1013 "2018-08-23T19:39:02Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > HURR DURR Didnt school start for you? Maybe this year you will finally graduate from highschool 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=47) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=49)