# CCP killed highsec PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493 "2018-03-23T17:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1194 "2018-08-25T16:37:53Z")
An increase (or perhaps a shift) in ganking will be a consequence. You’ve got to accept how evil thinks and works. Gankers will take more pleasure out of ganking social corp players than others. @Nicolai_Serkanner You were saying? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1195 "2018-08-25T16:43:48Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > An increase in ganking will be a consequence. And does that matter, nope. > [@Whitehound](#): > > Gankers will take more pleasure out of ganking social corp players than others. They take pleasure…, ok so what? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1196 "2018-08-25T16:44:59Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > And does that matter, nope. > … > They take pleasure…, ok so what? I wasn’t complaining. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1197 "2018-08-25T16:52:36Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > I wasn’t complaining. I did not think you were complaining, I was simply not sure what your point was? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1198 "2018-08-25T17:48:43Z")
I love how 87 _no u_ posts were made in the last couple hours 😂 So productive ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1200 "2018-08-25T18:45:10Z")
Holy cow! Guys, relax and stabilize your positive or negative attitudes to Hi-Sec whatever it is! Current status of this topic: DU DU DU DU DU 🙃 https://www.youtube.com/embed/yZi89iQ11eM?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL2EF6E1B4B965D11E&start=143 ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1201 "2018-08-25T18:56:34Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > An increase (or perhaps a shift) in ganking will be a consequence. You’ve got to accept how evil thinks and works. Gankers will take more pleasure out of ganking social corp players than others. Remove tags to fix sec for sec lost from high sec ganks, and increase the sec loss by about 20x for high sec ganks. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1202 "2018-08-25T19:32:59Z")
> [@ArmyOfMe](#): > > Remove tags to fix sec for sec lost from high sec ganks, and increase the sec loss by about 20x for high sec ganks. Gankers care little about sec status. Just saying… ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1203 "2018-08-25T19:33:49Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@ArmyOfMe](#): > > > > Remove tags to fix sec for sec lost from high sec ganks, and increase the sec loss by about 20x for high sec ganks. > > Gankers care little about sec status. Just saying… improve negative effects of flying in high sec while being criminal as well ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1204 "2018-08-25T19:54:57Z")
> [@ArmyOfMe](#): > > improve negative effects of flying in high sec while being criminal as well I don’t want to touch ganking. Change needs to have a clearly visible benefit with little to no side-effects, or one gets owned by the consequences that were missed in the planning. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1205 "2018-08-25T22:01:11Z")
But which one is which cat? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1206 "2018-08-25T22:33:31Z")
More to the point, which one is Dwayne Dibley? _I missed a which in the post above, but bugger it, the reference stays._ ---
**Author:** ![DioKahn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diokahn/32/337642_2.png) [@DioKahn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DioKahn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1207 "2018-09-07T09:27:31Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > This is the legacy of CCP Seagull. Hit the nail on the head… Snowflakes took over. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1208 "2018-09-23T02:38:37Z")
Good to see 'ol Dracvlad still dispensing painful truths. As for his “leadership” in AG, that never existed. The only people who he lead were those who flew with him and witnessed his amazing skills as a pilot, scholar, and gentleman. Heck watching him play made me realize I was bad at Eve. As for his “running to highsec” - that didn’t happen. What happened was some kind of chain decs that came a month or two after taking a tower from from code bumper whose name escapes me - Siggy hosenhouser or something I don’t know. Drac took his tower. During the chain dec that tower stood, and Drac got bored after watching the opponents play the usual gate games. Heck even I got a 5 man team to panic with a SB and a Hyperion on the other side - Sivala I think. Just like my wormhole travels, outnumbered and outgunned but the hyper-individualistics of the enemy ensures that since one of them might go down and get their KB dented they all freaked. Been a while. Drac got bored and went to null to make some ISK and Siggmund whoever took the tower back after it was abandoned. Good times. AG has been little more than a chat channel. That’s pretty much it. It mainly runs cover for Highsec Militia. BTW what’s this about Bals that didn’t engage? > **[WAR ALOD: Gud Fights, Gud Fleets](http://highsecmilitia.blogspot.com/2018/05/war-alod-gud-fights-gud-fleets.html)** > > A blog about Eve Online Ah well. Nostalgia. Back to trolling on the chans… Someday maybe I’ll have time to play again. Been watching the updates and that new stuff. Pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1209 "2018-09-23T03:53:48Z")
> [@DioKahn](#): > > CCP used to create conflict… No, players create conflict. CCP creates the environment. As for HS I got about half of the way through your post and saw nothing really having to do with HS. Can you re-work your post to consistent with the title or maybe just ask for the thread to be closed? ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1210 "2018-09-23T03:54:55Z")
> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#): > > Please do. Don’t encourage him…it will likely make my head hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1211 "2018-09-23T21:16:00Z")
Anyone feel like ![nWXa8aI](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/e/e8690c5c1f58954947edeead4d3ac2f738b3ad7a.gif) Everyone has the same argument and no one has nothing new… So is this the definition of insanity yet? ---
**Author:** ![Kieron\_VonDeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kieron_vondeux/32/38030_2.png) [@Kieron\_VonDeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kieron_VonDeux)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1212 "2018-09-23T21:53:14Z")
Welcome to the Eve Online forums, the most consistent thing about this game. ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1213 "2018-09-24T09:58:41Z")
I know these forums, I was born with them, you merely adopted them… ---
**Author:** ![Penance\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/penance_toralen/32/244089_2.png) [@Penance\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Penance_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/1214 "2018-09-25T23:09:28Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > The complaints however don’t come from the war deccers, This is patiently false. Complaints come like this; - The removal of the watch-list. - The players in NPC should be forced in a dec-able corp - Players should not be able to from drop a corp at war - Wars should follow a player everywhere - closing a corp and opening a new one Do I need to continue? I, for one will be interesting to see how the CSM will be handling the can of worms. This is on their to-do list after all. Just this thread alone should see some them lose the desire to stand for re-election. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=57) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493.md?page=59)