# CCP lays of dozens and closes VR department

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 30, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228 "2017-10-30T15:24:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mikhem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mikhem/32/257344_2.png) [@Mikhem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mikhem)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/307 "2017-11-19T12:08:46Z")

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It seems that CCP has released Sparc game this week.

> **[Sparc, a VR game on Steam from CCP • r/Eve](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/7depyl/sparc_a_vr_game_on_steam_from_ccp/)**
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> 18 points and 15 comments so far on reddit

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/308 "2017-11-19T12:22:53Z")

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Kicking the VR teams, release new VR game (now) … does this make sense?

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/309 "2017-11-19T13:14:59Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> Kicking the VR teams, release new VR game (now) … does this make sense?

I suppose it’s a better business decision than throwing the code away, but it’s giving the devs that worked on it the middle finger after the kick in the ass.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/310 "2017-11-22T20:51:40Z")

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This is going to fail, enormously.

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**Author:** ![Ebony\_Texas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ebony_texas/32/12133_2.png) [@Ebony\_Texas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ebony_Texas)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/311 "2017-11-22T21:18:38Z")

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lmao…the only money ccp is getting from me is about Eve Online… the ONLY game they’ve had running for a long while… they have proven do not trust ccp games when it comes to new products they offer as they can not commit to the new product… its a cash grab nothing more nothing less.

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**Author:** ![Mikhem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mikhem/32/257344_2.png) [@Mikhem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mikhem)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/312 "2017-12-26T16:45:39Z")

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It seems that CCP has started new MMORPG project very fast after layoffs. Even this thread didn’t have time to close.

> **[r/Eve - "CCP is currently building a team in London to lead development on a new...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/7m4f47/ccp_is_currently_building_a_team_in_london_to/)**
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> 445 votes and 476 comments so far on Reddit

> **[Page Not Found - CCP Games](https://www.ccpgames.com/notfound)**
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> CCP was founded in 1997 in Reykjavik, Iceland. With the launch of EVE Online in May 2003, CCP established itself as one of the most innovative companies in interactive entertainment, winning numerous awards and receiving critical acclaim worldwide.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/313 "2017-12-26T18:30:32Z")

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They are talking about a new IP, so I assume it’s something else than EvE/Nova. Why I‘m not full of confidence Hilmar will do something right this time … 😑

… and bad news for EvE, gone the hope more focus will be put on it now.

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**Author:** ![DaReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dareaper/32/330255_2.png) [@DaReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DaReaper)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/314 "2017-12-26T21:44:02Z")

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It doens;t actually say new ip, just a new mmo. which could in theory be anything, but yea you are prolly right.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/315 "2017-12-26T21:56:21Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> gone the hope more focus will be put on it now.

It is gone long time ago. Only very naive people could trust CCP after all these years…

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/316 "2017-12-27T02:22:49Z")

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Assuming they don’t cross team any of the Devs, why is it relevant at all.  
Totally different teams will be working on it.  
And it’s unlikely to be a VR project so very few of the VR staff would have been suitable candidates for transferring (& those that are may very well have done so)

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/317 "2017-12-27T03:28:23Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> And it’s unlikely to be a VR project so very few of the VR staff would have been suitable candidates for transferring (& those that are may very well have done so)

As it is, according to the update on this Polygon article, the VR department hasn’t closed as such and Valkyrie and Sparc will continue to be developed by CCP even after the Newcastle studio is sold (if not already):

> **[Eve: Valkyrie developer will consolidate, sell off studios (correction)](https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/30/16575162/ccp-closing-consolidating-studios-virtual-reality)**
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> Changes will reflect a reduced investment in VR

So I’m not so sure about this new MMO. On the one hand, good on CCP for being willing to try new things. On the other hand, sucks to be in the games industry where CCP failures are just par for the course across all studios.

I don’t see this impacting EVE development so much, but CCP laying off the community team for EVE was a significant blow. As an EVE player, I’d prefer they bought people like Logibro and Leeloo back, before they go hiring devs for a new venture, but I’m just a customer, not an equity owner.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/318 "2017-12-27T06:52:34Z")

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This is the WTF factor, CCP fires veteran necessary personnel from their mainstay title, and one month later they’re hiring for a new project. Weird.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/319 "2018-03-27T06:53:25Z")

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