# CCP lays of dozens and closes VR department

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 30, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228 "2017-10-30T15:24:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tora\_Bushido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tora_bushido/32/382053_2.png) [@Tora\_Bushido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tora_Bushido)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/23 "2017-10-30T18:38:23Z")

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Any chance you can tell everyone at Evesterdam a bit more on this, this weekend?

Good luck CCP Manifest, after so many years.

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**Author:** ![Baygun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baygun/32/258791_2.png) [@Baygun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baygun)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/24 "2017-10-30T18:55:42Z")

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Quite unfortunate news, but really the problem is in:

1. low quality VR sets (low resolution, too much cables)
2. lack of supply of VR headsets to the markets
3. (despite 1) insufficient computing power to drive the VR hardware

However CCP got valuable experience working together with hardware devs. And that is very good head start.

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**Author:** ![Freelancer117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/freelancer117/32/435453_2.png) [@Freelancer117](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Freelancer117)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/25 "2017-10-30T19:36:31Z")

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WoW, so this happened

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/26 "2017-10-30T19:41:32Z")

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VR experiment has concluded.

Remove the obsolete units.

End of transmission.

😔

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/27 "2017-10-30T19:41:35Z")

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I think the main problem is that the whole VR thing is based on the wow effect which fades after a while. And after that hardly anyone wants to strap a heavy headset to the face just to play some game for an hour.

In other words: How do you even eat pizza with this thing on the head?

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**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/28 "2017-10-30T19:43:06Z")

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Hey Hilmar! If you offer these VR folks jobs working on EvE development I for one pledge to buy plex and such.

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**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/29 "2017-10-30T19:45:52Z")

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Got a strong wish to stop working on CCP Games and unsub my accts. finally.

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**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/30 "2017-10-30T19:52:08Z")

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> [@Tiddle\_Jr](#):
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> Got a strong wish to stop working on CCP Games and unsub my accts. finally.

Cool…so…you won’t be wanting your stuff then…I would be most grateful to you for it.

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**Author:** ![Arkady\_Vachon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arkady_vachon/32/20567_2.png) [@Arkady\_Vachon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arkady_Vachon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/31 "2017-10-30T19:54:02Z")

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While VR gaming may not be as mature right now, there are still plenty of applications of industry/medicine/education and the like for it, and CCP has done a good job on their tech. I kind of wondered if this could happen. Is the VR Tech being licensed or sold to another company, and when would we know more about this?

As always, much \<3 to yall

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/32 "2017-10-30T20:02:32Z")

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People said many times that EVE is dying, even just from beginning. Its like a good charm it looks, as EVE is the best doing game from CCP, after all those years.

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**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/33 "2017-10-30T20:03:34Z")

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U know nothing, so deserve nothing.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/34 "2017-10-30T20:05:19Z")

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You who suddenly want to leave EVE, there is no need to fear anything. EVE is the most precious development CCP always had.

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**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/35 "2017-10-30T20:05:23Z")

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Best of CCP not the best of all. The kid appeared to be better than parrent.

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**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/36 "2017-10-30T20:06:13Z")

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> [@Tiddle\_Jr](#):
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> U know nothing, so deserve nothing.

Ah, dang. ☹ Done in by my abject ignorance again.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/37 "2017-10-30T20:06:19Z")

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What kid? SC? Its completely other kind of game. Different scope entirely. And unfinished at that. Better Elite Dangerous. SC will never be a massive universe where one man actions can ripple thru the entire New Eden like a boulder thrown into a pool, affecting many lives.

Nowhere else knife in the back hurts so much. It all have meaning, its persistent world.

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**Author:** ![Gryphon\_Infinite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gryphon_infinite/32/152436_2.png) [@Gryphon\_Infinite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gryphon_Infinite)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/38 "2017-10-30T20:17:32Z")

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Jeez interesting news, not expected but slightly expected, the biggest surprise of all of this is the drastic and massive move by CCP of a whole branch and 1/3 of CCP let go. Think of it as massive layoff and liquidation.

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**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/39 "2017-10-30T20:22:37Z")

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Don’t worry mate u got some love of me 🤗

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/40 "2017-10-30T20:25:17Z")

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Sad day for CCP in relation to their staff and I hope they all find new employment quickly.

Overall though, as a community we are often quick to criticise CCP when they don’t think big, so jumping into VR early was a sign of a company willing and in a position to take a huge risk. That’s a massive positive.

At the same time, being prepared to make a tough business decision is also a positive for the company, if not for the individuals.

So congrats CCP for being willing to lead in the industry and I hope you keep trying things. Sorry to the staff affected.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_C0ld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_c0ld/32/471894_2.png) [@Captain\_C0ld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_C0ld)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/41 "2017-10-30T20:27:02Z")

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CCP should focus all their love for EVE and it will be a win-win relationship.

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**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-lays-of-dozens-and-closes-vr-department/35228/42 "2017-10-30T20:29:01Z")

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> **[CCP Games shuts down VR development, lays off nearly 100 employees](http://www.pcgamer.com/ccp-games-shuts-down-vr-development-lays-off-nearly-100-employees/)**
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> CCP is closing its VR-focused studios despite heavy emphasis on VR for the last few years.

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