# CCP Peturrson, Has A Fantasy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 4, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564 "2024-09-04T22:01:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/43 "2024-09-06T15:22:38Z")
Sure, but with things like Tornado or Gnosis you’re getting into the realms of 60-90m ISK, which is a bit expensive for taking out the cheap anti-ganker frigates. This is what I mean by things being dis-incentivized. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/44 "2024-09-06T15:27:40Z")
Navy yes . Facpo? not a chance, tried to tank them with 150k hull tank battleship back when we still could test stuff on a test server. They cheat. After few seconds they just ramp up the dps and you die very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/45 "2024-09-06T15:30:56Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > That’s why we get statements like ‘I don’t disagree with ganking, but…’ There’s entire swathes of threads detailing how noobs may be put off Eve by ganking. Yet I consider it just as likely that noobs are put off by all the bloated mechanics you mention. It’s just that the carebears are more vocal, rather than being more numerous. But I’d suspect that barely a day goes by without some noob leaving due to the _lack_ of PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/46 "2024-09-06T15:31:35Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > which is a bit expensive for taking out the cheap anti-ganker frigates. You’re right, and it would discourage a fair number of players. I have long since decided that EVE is my hobby. As such, I will sink as much money into my hobby as I can afford because it grants me enormous satisfaction. The satisfaction is my reward, my ‘profit’, if you like. I regard it as excessive to use 4 Omega accounts in order to spank an irritating Procurer pilot who has recently taken up residence near my home, but I will do it, for the love of EVE! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/47 "2024-09-06T15:37:18Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > You’re right, and it would discourage a fair number of players. > > I have long since decided that EVE is my hobby. As such, I will sink as much money into my hobby as I can afford because it grants me enormous satisfaction. The satisfaction is my reward, my ‘profit’, if you like. ISK-wise it doesn’t discourage me. In fact I created quite a nifty 400 DPS Moa setup for just 17m ISK and which has 18K EHP. But…am I going to ‘waste’ a 17m ISK ship on a less than 1m ISK Griffin ? Nice solo kill…I can _easily_ afford the loss…but Eve is precisely the sort of game where one’s victory becomes ’ ha…you wasted all that ISK’. I wonder if this sort of thing ever enters Hilmar’s fantasies. But here’s something for Hilmar’s nightmares : Disgruntled noobs are more likely to express that disgruntlement than bored noobs. Thus one can gain the _false impression_ that swathes of people leave Eve because they got ganked or whatever…when in fact the silent majority were simply bored of all the bloated mechanics in the way of them having a good fight. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/48 "2024-09-06T15:49:36Z")
Weren’t there also people flying around in Gank Atrons to kill Ventures? ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/49 "2024-09-06T16:19:15Z")
Yes, Dyver, I’ve done it. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/50 "2024-09-06T16:22:57Z")
Yes, if every new player in Highsec who was ganked left the game, it would show up as a little red flag on CCP’s mini-map. Surely? That ganking hasn’t (yet) been removed might indicate that CCP doesn’t regard it as a significant issue, given the amount of churn to which they have coyly admitted. ---
**Author:** ![Echerie\_Saissore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echerie_saissore/32/505998_2.png) [@Echerie\_Saissore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echerie_Saissore)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/51 "2024-09-07T19:43:18Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > It’s just that the carebears are more vocal, Surely there is nothing more vocal than a nullbloc leader. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/52 "2024-09-07T19:53:17Z")
Nullbloc leaders _are_ carebears. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/53 "2024-09-10T20:28:45Z")
A soon to be dissolved Imperial Senate ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/54 "2024-09-11T00:34:45Z")
…and we all know who runs the Imperial Senate. The core tenent of Eve Online is, PvP. How do we access Dev Space, the home of CCP? I bet there is some really good stuff in Dev Space. PvP is consensual upon undock, and since CCP does maintain a region of space and solar systems in New Eden and fly’s spaceships around, then Dev Space is open to be entered by Capsuleers. How do we get into Dev Space to change the problem that opens the door to Dev Space? The forums. We are coming. We want your beer. Your chips, and your PLEX. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/55 "2024-09-11T02:42:13Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > I bet there is some really good stuff in Dev Space. Mostly just cockroaches. ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/56 "2024-09-11T03:58:54Z")
Never gonna happen. I suspect that all that goes on there is testing anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/57 "2024-09-11T06:26:22Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > …I bet there is some really good stuff in Dev Space. …Dev Space is open to be entered by Capsuleers. …How do we get into Dev Space… Easy, all you have to do is ~~swim~~ slowboat there. 😉 > **[A look at GM Island and the Player Jail - Engadget](https://www.engadget.com/2010-02-26-a-look-at-gm-island-and-the-player-jail.html?guccounter=1)** > > It's hard to judge exactly how many players know about GM Island. Some of the older players will remember the flood of trade chat and guild chats whenever a GM was online and visible in GM Island, and those folks who like to mess around with private... > …players were able to swim out to the island, and that swim took around an hour of hard work. It involved using a level one character constantly casting renew and other healing spells; and the player had to know exactly where to point themselves or risk being hopelessly lost in the vast oceans… 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Mikki\_Disco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mikki_disco/32/374218_2.png) [@Mikki\_Disco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mikki_Disco)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/58 "2024-09-11T06:33:24Z")
Mostly just cockroaches. [/quote] Gankers? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/59 "2024-09-11T21:54:18Z")
We should be allowed to attack Dev Space. Even a small amount of Dev space, maybe 25 solar systems, that only brave and glory seeking Capsuleers would dare breach the Jovian Field to access Dev space, if for only a limited time. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/62 "2024-09-12T10:33:19Z")
It takes more than one Capsuleer to accept another’s politics and by accepting such helps build something more meaningful than plain outright deciding whether being an NPC @Mr_Epeen or being a part of something broader like an Alliance! ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/63 "2024-09-12T12:00:53Z")
Why did you delete that? It was good, don’t hide behind the truth ---
**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-peturrson-has-a-fantasy/460564/64 "2024-09-12T12:03:24Z")
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