# CCP plans to remove PvP from HS **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 27, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184 "2020-12-27T20:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/203 "2021-01-02T01:32:37Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Kind of like when you spend an evening drinking until all the places close up, and then as you’re walking or riding public transportation home, you start getting this queasy feeling in your stomach, and you’re not quite there _yet_, but you also know that you’re far enough from home that you’re probably _not_ going to make it back by the time that it becomes a _real_ problem. If nothing else, an apropos anecdote for the day after New Years Eve. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/205 "2021-01-02T01:54:56Z")
> [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > Freedom fighters Still Sounds like terrorists. lol ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/randy_rachel_gallavant/32/375354_2.png) [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Randy_Rachel_Gallavant)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/206 "2021-01-02T02:00:04Z")
You can call me a carebear if you want 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/207 "2021-01-02T02:01:24Z")
It’s just…It’s just not the _same_ when they’re _asking_ for it… ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/208 "2021-01-02T02:11:36Z")
> [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](#): > > which they view as particularly detrimental to new players really ? im sure they did a presentation that proved that hilariously wrong. > [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](#): > > My prediction is that they’ll just make it harder for suicide gankers to sit and camp the same system all day long without any real long-term consequences from Concord. ?? we kill someone concord kills us and we lose our ship and our sec status is dropped, killrights are involved and we can be killed anywhere anytime, flying around is hampered by the naughty police pointing us and killing us what more consequences do you want > [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](#): > > hich they view as particularly detrimental to new players that don’t have the same knowledge as more experienced players. teach them to live its a lot easier than reworking the game Code but hey what do i know > [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](#): > > Like if you’ve killed four people in Uedama with Catalysts in the past week, then perhaps Concord will shoot you on sight if you bring a fifth Catalyst to Uedama. If they were an actual police force concord are not the police … the faction police are the …police and they already do what you want, concord comes after you gank and destroy your ships > [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](#): > > Right now the Concord system is ridiculous because they don’t care how many people you’ve killed in the past, only responding immediately after you aggress. It’s like if the police caught a murderer and took his weapon away, then let him go right back to murdering with another weapon. Repeat 100 times concord react to your “crimes” they kill you and your crime is dealt with, if you want to do a rl comparison, i kill someone in RL then i get 6 week in prison once ive done that time my sentence is done and the police cant touch me ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/209 "2021-01-02T02:30:41Z")
> [@Randy\_Rachel\_Gallavant](#): > > When a convicted murderer walks into the courthouse with a machine gun How could he if hes convicted? Wont he be in prison? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/210 "2021-01-02T06:11:46Z")
> [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > enemies are more fun than friends [Green Day: “Know Your Enemy” - [Official Video] - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IclmVdWNbI) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/211 "2021-01-02T06:44:41Z")
“Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.” I don’t have in-game friends. So I just keep my enemies closer… 😅 ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/212 "2021-01-02T14:46:28Z")
Once in a situation like this I needed to left my bus and then waiting for an hour for next one. Fun times. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/213 "2021-01-02T14:53:59Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > Fun times. Waiting an hour beats shitting yourself, though. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Alfonzor\_Dilapidus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alfonzor_dilapidus/32/395834_2.png) [@Alfonzor\_Dilapidus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alfonzor_Dilapidus)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/214 "2021-01-02T16:15:04Z")
I’m betting it is about an increased security response to players that have either low standing with the particular empire or EDENCOM. “Intrusive” doesn’t mean the same thing as “criminal” or “aggressive,” it means more like capsuleers that don’t belong. The sentence also talks about low sec becoming more important, and players who sided with EDENCOM have been complaining about how they got nothing while the players would sided with the Trigs got Pochven, so maybe those things suggest the latter. They gave Trig-aligned players a mechanism to repair their EDENCOM standing by rewarding EDENCOM standing for killing lots of the NPCs in Pochven, so they probably had a reason to do that. I’d probably generally prefer the former, to kind of break up hisec a bit and create more of an incentive to make 4 viable market hubs again, and that seems kind of consistent with CCP’s push to separate Amarr from Jita. So, I wouldn’t be surprised with either. But, in any case, I don’t think it’s a PvP penalty. CCP is generally trying to create more destruction, not less, and “intrusive” probably isn’t the word they would use if that was their plan. ---
**Author:** ![Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astelon_bheskagor/32/360222_2.png) [@Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astelon_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/215 "2021-01-02T16:43:53Z")
All of this is just pure speculation coming from you , until proven otherwise. Until then go outside ! There’s a world out there, have some fresh air , take a walk or play some other video game. Preferably you should get out of your parents basement. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/216 "2021-01-02T16:46:19Z")
I heard they are going to round up every capsuleer in Amarr and send them to mine Providence into submission. ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/217 "2021-01-03T01:51:59Z")
> [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > concord react to your “crimes” they kill you and your crime is dealt with Concord just destroy your ship but your pod is still intact. But it will be fun if they will include the pod and send you home as an additional feature. 🙂 I doubt that you use an implants so this kind of feature will not be a big problem. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/218 "2021-01-03T08:59:32Z")
Handy if your home is a station 1500km away with 500 catalysts ready to go again tho. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/219 "2021-01-03T11:02:58Z")
> [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](#): > > Concord just destroy your ship but your pod is still intact. But it will be fun if they will include the pod and send you home as an additional feature. 🙂 I doubt that you use an implants so this kind of feature will not be a big problem. 🙂 that would be a good addition, clicking self destruct my pod after each gank to get back to base for reshipping is tiresome. This as usual wouldnt affect gankers in the slightest, well it would be a small buff. It would be the folk that accidently shoot someone that will suffer and they will have shiny implants so go for it \o/ ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/220 "2021-01-04T13:13:26Z")
is this where we are supposed to insert the ‘can I have all your stuff’ snark? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/221 "2021-01-04T13:38:32Z")
I actually like using implants. For some reason, though … and I’m not making this up … … do I lose most pods when I plug implants in. Most often even on the same ■■■■■■■ day. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Sateen\_von\_Jager](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sateen_von_jager/32/237146_2.png) [@Sateen\_von\_Jager](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sateen_von_Jager)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/223 "2021-01-04T16:28:14Z")
Good. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/224 "2021-01-04T16:46:51Z")
Does OP beat up little kids on the playground to feel superior as well or does OP know that there are others who want to fight as well but is too afraid to find someone ready and willing to fight back?? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184.md?page=12)