# CCP plans to remove PvP from HS **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 27, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184 "2020-12-27T20:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/21 "2020-12-27T21:35:08Z")
You’d think right? Just watch. The Dev-Blog makes it quite clear that they’re caving again. They even discuss rolling back some of the nerfs to PvE they made this year. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/22 "2020-12-27T21:39:20Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > They even discuss rolling back some of the nerfs to PvE they made this year. Rolling back nerfs was always part of the original plan if I remember correctly, but that’s a good thing for pvp too. More satisfied PVE community provides more people in space, providing more targets. So any buff to PVE isn’t a negative for PVP. But CCP have also been pretty clear for almost the entire existence of the game that things must be destroyable. That’s become even more so in recent years, especially in highsec. They aren’t going to make a 100% pvp-free highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/23 "2020-12-27T21:43:05Z")
ROFL. What a wild and way off interpretation of what the dev blog says and means. Well done, OP, this is going to make stronger whatever point you try to make on these forums now and in the foreseeable future. Now you just have to keep making more threads to insist about this so everybody starts taking it seriously… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/24 "2020-12-27T21:47:44Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > So CCP plans to try to move PvP out of HS… Hard to tell from their blurbs. It would be a bit crazy if they did. Most I can see getting out of that (rationally speaking) is that empire navy forces and maybe sentry guns will start being a little harsher on pilots with bad standings. Of course its entirely possible that nobody in command _speaks_ Rational. I’d guess this would mean more time spent repairing standings, which means less time PvPing, which is still bad but not the same as moving all PvP out of high sec. Of course, it’s debatable whether what occurs in high sec can be called “PvP” anyway. More like the daily seal-hunt, really. ---
**Author:** ![Alfonzor\_Dilapidus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alfonzor_dilapidus/32/395834_2.png) [@Alfonzor\_Dilapidus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alfonzor_Dilapidus)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/25 "2020-12-27T22:02:41Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > **as the Empires’ patience with intrusive Capsuleers in Highsec is wearing thin** Hard to know for sure, but to me, that sounds like they’re talking about Empires starting to attack pilots that have standings below 5 with their Empire. E.g., if you standing with Minmatar is -5.1 then Minmatar ships patrolling gates fire on you. If so, I think that might be kind of cool. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/26 "2020-12-27T22:46:04Z")
i hope they don’t implement any moving impediment based on standing because 1. standing system suck 2. this is the equivalent of splitting the community and this never goes well because , splits the community ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/27 "2020-12-27T22:49:24Z")
Surely FW would receive the honour they are due. Like recognition from the state. Better food and wank mags, that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/28 "2020-12-27T23:39:03Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > But at the same time maybe access could now be limited to your faction standing to that faction: > (I see this as a possibility as CCP has already tested this with Pochven Gates requiring standings.) > -2 to 2 standings can access 0.5 systems in high sec > 2.1 to 4 standings can access 0.6 systems in high sec > 4.1 to 6 standings can access 0.7 systems in high sec > 6.1 to 7 standings can access 0.8 systems in high sec > 7.1 to 8 standings can access 0.9 systems in high sec > 9.1 to 9.9 standings can access 1.0 systems in high sec Do that, and only @DeMichael_Crimson will be able to go anywhere. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/29 "2020-12-27T23:43:15Z")
Haha it was an idea, but probably a terrible one xD It would work out badly for me if it did go in lol: ![Standings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/3/73437ee994d7ff307990f64842bf91173783fc23.jpeg) I have a feeling Michael prob has high standings in all 4 high sec factions. ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/30 "2020-12-27T23:46:19Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Haha it was an idea, but probably a terrible one xD Even restricting outlaws from NPC stations would be a bad idea in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/31 "2020-12-27T23:49:07Z")
I personally would love to see lots of little “village’s” so to speak, to me its weird having 4 factions that are at war with each other but are completely fine with people in their space that support their enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/32 "2020-12-27T23:53:57Z")
But but mah immershiv lorrrre ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/33 "2020-12-27T23:54:41Z")
Hey Immersion is good for games for a reason 😛 as long as it doesn’t come as a massive cost to game play. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/34 "2020-12-28T00:16:43Z")
Im more kinda saying it doesnt really exist in EvE cos its paper thin but theres always someone whose gonna act like its Citizen Kane or something even though it has zero impact on players. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/35 "2020-12-28T01:04:47Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > Empires’ patience with intrusive Capsuleers in Highsec is wearing thin What a heap of poopoo this is. Basically because the NPCs are taking over the same role and nobody even notices from those “empires”. ---
**Author:** ![EC\_Easy\_Gordon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ec_easy_gordon/32/234972_2.png) [@EC\_Easy\_Gordon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EC_Easy_Gordon)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/36 "2020-12-28T02:44:19Z")
everyone has a different metric to success - it’s supposed to be a sandbox and CCP won’t stop f\*\*\*\*ing with it ---
**Author:** ![Elwha\_Lynx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elwha_lynx/32/246048_2.png) [@Elwha\_Lynx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elwha_Lynx)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/37 "2020-12-28T02:58:16Z")
Would rather they just develop a few more tools for players to deal with them, For example, imagine a slightly smaller deep space with a bonus for small guns, sort of like an Eve Version of an East India merchant ship and one capable of alpha cata blaster boats etc. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/38 "2020-12-28T03:24:00Z")
Current CCP design methodology makes me question the idea that CCP would want to get rid of PvP in high-sec outright, although four or five years ago I would’ve agreed 100% if I saw something like that written by them. If they _were_ getting rid of PvP in high-sec, it would _have_ to be accompanied by the complete evisceration of all NPC-driven high-sec money-making opportunities, which they (currently) wouldn’t be able to get away with without a few of their developers’ corpses winding up floating in the Atlantic Ocean (also kind of applies to null-sec - they’re really testing the waters with some of the recent changes). Yes, I do _literally_ think that at least a _few_ EVE players would make actual, physical attempts on CCP employees’ lives if the grind were to be somehow endangered. The rabbit hole goes too deep at this point. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/39 "2020-12-28T03:29:42Z")
Knowing the strange way gamers think, I am surprised this has not already happened? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/40 "2020-12-28T03:31:26Z")
Probably because until very recently, all of the changes EVE received were in favor of the grind, and not against it. Does anyone here _really_ think CCP inboxes didn’t receive at least a _few_ death threats after blackout? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184.md?page=3)