# CCP plans to remove PvP from HS **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 27, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184 "2020-12-27T20:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/731 "2021-03-14T20:57:46Z")
> [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](#): > > So CCP lied when they said botting had greatly reduced? Greatly reduced since alphas in 2016. Alphas came with a massive bot surge that would have been unsustainable when every account had to be paid for. Even after the recent crackdown on bots i wouldn’t be surprised if there were still more bots now than before alphas. ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/732 "2021-03-14T20:58:42Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Greatly reduced since alphas in 2016. > > Alphas came with a massive bot surge that would have been unsustainable when every account had to be paid for. > > Even after the recent crackdown on bots i wouldn’t be surprised if there were still more bots now than before alphas. Evidence for any of these claims? ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/733 "2021-03-14T21:01:15Z")
Playing the ■■■■■■■ game is the evidence. Stop being a prat. Post an opinion instead of trying to poke holes in everyone elses. It will only get you ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/734 "2021-03-14T21:02:46Z")
Alphas being restricted from level 4’s because of bots galore. > **[Security Update - Q1 2019 | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/security-update-q1-2019)** > > Check out this devblog for the latest information on the fight against botting and RMT, as well as some upcoming changes to alpha account entitlements when mission running. ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/736 "2021-03-14T21:06:12Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > Playing the ■■■■■■■ game is the evidence. Stop being a prat. Post an opinion instead of trying to poke holes in everyone elses. It will only get you ignored. 2021, where everyone thinks they have a right to have stupid opinions and facts don’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/737 "2021-03-14T21:06:55Z")
You’re literally the one refusing to believe the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/738 "2021-03-14T21:07:04Z")
Which fact are we currently debating? Or are we still on “define “fact””? ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/739 "2021-03-14T21:07:17Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > You’re literally the one refusing to believe the facts. You haven’t provided any facts. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/740 "2021-03-14T21:07:28Z")
We’ve been on “define “fact”” for like 5 years yup this dude gets the ignore too. Oh yea, knew that thread lock was coming. We’re airing out way too much CCP dirty laundry. ---
**Author:** ![Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadia_kakki_sotken/32/261190_2.png) [@Kadia\_Kakki\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadia_Kakki_Sotken)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/741 "2021-03-14T21:10:07Z")
Having a tantrum because someone challenged you for saying stuff without proof. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/742 "2021-03-14T21:12:13Z")
Yeah but dude, providing facts is so difficult nowadays. This guy’s been used to claiming BS since he began playing, and now you are asking him to challenge his own opinion ? You are going too harsh on him. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/743 "2021-03-14T21:12:47Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-plans-to-remove-pvp-from-hs/287184/744 "2021-03-14T21:13:19Z")
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