# CCP Please stop penalising us for money we gave you **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 27, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668 "2019-12-27T19:53:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Palllina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/palllina/32/401241_2.png) [@Palllina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Palllina)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/41 "2019-12-27T21:30:43Z")
I’m going to finish this thread on this…I LOVE THIS GAME. thank you for everybody who contributed…I just wanted to hopefully let CCP know that they have an extremely loyal following…and I am one…but you know 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bullet\_bites](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bullet_bites/32/172830_2.png) [@bullet\_bites](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bullet_bites)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/42 "2019-12-27T21:39:55Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > Well, I have only 3 accounts…all over 100 mill SP… I only play one so I guess it’s up to you. And at this stage I think CCP know how to make money other ways cause if they were relying on us, they’d be in big trouble Why don’t you sell off those 2 “gimped as alpha” accounts/chars. It will give you at least 130 Billion ISK for them. You could be having nice gameplay with your remaining account with all that spending money. Either way, we hear that you are unable to reverse your investment as you keep those accounts in alpha but your real problem is in my opinion that you think that Omega Gameplay is the Only valid gameplay. A combination Omega & Alpha is possible or even only Alpha. I sold my 102 mill SP character and I am enjoying what EVE has to offer as a alpha and it still is enjoyable and diverse. ---
**Author:** ![Palllina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/palllina/32/401241_2.png) [@Palllina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Palllina)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/43 "2019-12-27T21:45:21Z")
Ty for the info. But…I’ve grown very attached to them…they’re the only chars I’ve ever created 🙂 EVE Bazzar? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/44 "2019-12-27T21:59:32Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > now I can’t use them because they’re alpha unless I log out my main Just because you paid for something once, that doesn’t entitle you to get that service free forever… This has to be a troll thread… ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/45 "2019-12-27T23:42:32Z")
It’s never enough, people always want more even if it ends up in silliness. They will use dumb, twisted “logic” and pretend to not understand why it’s dumb and twisted, frantically trying to get things their way. It’s childish, pathetic and actually rather insulting. ---
**Author:** ![Palllina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/palllina/32/401241_2.png) [@Palllina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Palllina)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/46 "2019-12-27T23:58:10Z")
YES I paid for a game i loved…and no trolls here btw ---
**Author:** ![Palllina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/palllina/32/401241_2.png) [@Palllina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Palllina)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/47 "2019-12-28T00:00:54Z")
one of the best games i’ ve played…so please don’t make me stop ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/48 "2019-12-28T00:12:06Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > so please don’t make me stop YOU are the one threatening to stop if you don’t get your way…sorry but if you can’t afford it then you only have the two options… BTW as others have said, you didn’t “pay for a game”, you paid for a block of time…stop feeling so entitled. ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/49 "2019-12-28T01:25:35Z")
Hi OP, this has to do with the pricing model in play. I believe you are accustomed to video games where you pay once, and the game is yours to play forever. Eve Online uses a subscription model, whereby you pay for the time when you want to use the game. Once you stop paying, you lose access. If you want to start paying again in the future, you get the access back. From reading your posts, it seems like you don’t enjoy/appreciate the subscription model, and you’d rather make a 1-time payment for your game. Short of CCP changing their entire pricing model, I don’t think you’ll get what you want from this game/company. ---
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/50 "2019-12-28T01:57:01Z")
Skill farm them, that should generate enough isk to plex the accounts or at least close enough that a grind for a few hundred mill wont be too bad. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/51 "2019-12-28T03:05:57Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > I’m really disappointed that I can’t use my other accounts Just use skill extractors to keep your extra accounts running. 10 minutes works and trade off of not accumulating more skill points, will allow you to run them as Omegas and fully access all there skills, as well as multibox. ---
**Author:** ![Jita\_Point\_Bot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jita_point_bot/32/383046_2.png) [@Jita\_Point\_Bot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jita_Point_Bot)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/52 "2019-12-28T03:09:24Z")
Any of you who don’t think it’s going to be totally free to play for all skills eventually are fooling yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/53 "2019-12-28T03:09:30Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Just use skill extractors to keep your extra accounts running. The OP isn’t interested in solutions that make sense. OP just wants everything for free, because reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/54 "2019-12-28T03:31:57Z")
> [@bullet\_bites](#): > > A combination Omega & Alpha is possible Just piping in to say that if you are suggesting that a combination of Omega and Alpha is possible together, then you are wrong my friend. You cannot have an Alpha and Omega logged in together. It’s against the either/or The TOS and EULA ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/56 "2019-12-28T10:25:08Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > plex too expensive cause nobody is playing Jesus wept. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/57 "2019-12-28T10:26:06Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > they have an extremely loyal following…and I am one You’re not actually, otherwise you wouldn’t beg for freebies. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/58 "2019-12-28T10:30:58Z")
U can use someone elses car and house. Also credit cards I think. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/59 "2019-12-28T10:51:02Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > Well, Jonah we are still in that mode. No, we’re not. You can play Eve on a single account without forking over a single penny; what you can’t do is play on multiple accounts simultaneously without paying. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/60 "2019-12-28T11:18:58Z")
> [@Palllina](#): > > , I only kept paying for one account. Firt of all, if you are a farmer, thank you for your hard work a lot of food I eat comes from you. That aside, let me look at this from a business perspective. If YOU think it is worth it, you should pay for all accounts you like to play at the same time. If you do not feel spending so much, play one full character or one limited character at a time. How do I deal with it? I have a budget for entertainment. I can spend it how I see fit. Sometimes I need to make choices and stop one or more subscriptions. To attend the eve invasion tours Amsterdam and London I skipped renewing two subs for 1 year. But since I like to play I took a job in the weekend delivering food. I then switched to working in the weekend at McDonals flipping burgers a few times and made enough to resub and buy some PLEX. But time and money are the most difficult to get items in RL. Everyone needs to determin how to organise their life. I learned a lot from Eve online and it’s community, even with all the toxicity here and there. I advanced in life through a computer game and it’s community. You should try too. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/61 "2019-12-28T11:55:12Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > > [@Palllina](#): > > > > I’m really disappointed that I can’t use my other accounts > > Just use skill extractors to keep your extra accounts running. 10 minutes works and trade off of not accumulating more skill points, will allow you to run them as Omegas and fully access all there skills, as well as multibox. Was about to write the same. This is the only thing that had to be said in this whole thread. Since extractors exist, fully trained alts are basically free (with minimal effort). That is also why we have seen such a surge in multiboxing. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668.md?page=4)