# CCP Please stop penalising us for money we gave you

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 27, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668 "2019-12-27T19:53:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/62 "2019-12-28T12:03:51Z")

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Oh god I just got out from under 20k of credit card debt 🤣 but I was being facetious with the house/car thing. Tho can I use your omega account?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/63 "2019-12-28T12:09:42Z")

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I am afraid its forbidden under the CCP law. 😞

Sharing a car isnt tho. At least not where I am.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/64 "2019-12-28T20:47:14Z")

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Sorry to break it to you, but i think that is how subscription games work.

Even WoW is still a subscription game. and a few others that are kinda of that way as well.

If you want to play something that isnt, go play Elite Dangerous or Star Trek Online.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/65 "2019-12-28T21:04:42Z")

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> [@Palllina](#):
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> but I think that this is very unfair.

lol pays to train extra accounts, can’t believe you still have to pay to use them. hahahaha

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/66 "2019-12-28T21:54:13Z")

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> [@Palllina](#):
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> loyalty to your customers who have played for a long time but that’s the only reason. plus maybe casual players like myself would log in more often

You know what, I agree.

All accounts that have been playing EVE for more than 20 years and have never taken a break from paying their monthly subscriptions should be allowed to multi box as alpha.

> [@Palllina](#):
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> EVE is EVE, there’ll always be abuse…but I think there should be some middle ground for accounts you’ve already paid for

You know, I say the same thing to the police that come to my house every day.

There’s always gonna be drug abuse, I think there needs to be a middle ground for people who got it legally, but got hooked and started taking it illegally through theft or forgery.

> [@Palllina](#):
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> Well, mortgage payments are essential imo.

I have mortgage payments. EA blizzard Activision, please send me free games.

This was a really funny read. 10/10 would make fun of again.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/67 "2019-12-28T22:01:34Z")

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> [@Complex\_Math](#):
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> From reading your posts, it seems like you don’t enjoy/appreciate the subscription model, and you’d rather make a 1-time payment for your game. Short of CCP changing their entire pricing model, I don’t think you’ll get what you want from this game/company.

I’m sure if the OP provided CCP with 400k usd, he would be given a lifetime subscription for one of his accounts. That way he can pay once, and continue this game for ever.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/68 "2019-12-28T22:06:55Z")

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> [@xxxTRUSTxxx](#):
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> lol pays to train extra accounts, can’t believe you still have to pay to use them. hahahaha

Yeah, and people paid taxes last year, cant believe you have to pay them again this year too. Hahaha.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/69 "2019-12-29T12:46:31Z")

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it’s funny for sure, like i’ve insured my cars for the last 35 years, surely now i’m entitled to free insurance on my cars after paying as much as i have over the years.

This is outrageous! It’s unfair!

joking aside, do we really need to explain why you must pay for things to an adult?

this stinks of OP paid to train accounts to a certain level then realised you can’t launch multiple alphas, so to the forums 😡

No hard feelings OP, but this be the rules, Caveat emptor. an all that.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/70 "2019-12-29T14:27:50Z")

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> [@xxxTRUSTxxx](#):
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> adult?

I think that’s the actual key point here. What _is_ an adult? Is it someone who has reached a certain age, or is it someone who has reached a certain point of maturity and understanding of the world? If we take the latter, then many people, including the OP, are absolutely not adults. There’s also plenty of indication that they will never reach said adulthood, because for that to happen they’d need to be questioning themselves, which, as far as I know, they don’t do at all.

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**Author:** ![BloodFlake\_Paaltomo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodflake_paaltomo/32/384203_2.png) [@BloodFlake\_Paaltomo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BloodFlake_Paaltomo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/71 "2019-12-30T08:20:17Z")

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Don’t see how that is fair for the people that are still paying for the accounts and playing. I know many people who run 12 accounts play for day a week and can re-sub every month. So I don’t see why, there needs the be a exemption, for people who don’t or cant pay for all their account anymore and they should get a special treatment. But the people that can should have to keep on paying for their accounts. It would just create a unfair just, where the entire community could just sub once and never have again and live in “omega” status for free.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/72 "2019-12-30T09:09:31Z")

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well to keep it simple, CCP charge a sub to play on omega, OP want’s to see that change and here we are trying to explain why it’s not a good idea and why it will not happen anytime soon.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-please-stop-penalising-us-for-money-we-gave-you/208668/73 "2020-03-29T09:09:36Z")

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