# Ccp response needed. whats being done to lower plex prices

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 25, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792 "2017-07-25T18:43:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/763 "2017-12-14T08:12:25Z")

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Man, just stop it. Salvos is right about this case. None you or him paid for this PLEX so it was not paid for. It does not matter whether it was gift, or bonus or anything from CCPs side.

And about event PLEXes: do you have any _proofs_ that they were not created from thin air? You know, mentioning unicorns when you have no proofs is not very good move…

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/764 "2017-12-14T08:27:28Z")

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No he really isnt. He made a case and was unable or refused to back it up. Theres not one shred of hard data included in any of his statements, and even if he is right about there existing free PLEX, he himself admitted that the number was so small as to be statistically irrelevent.

That means he spend days arguing about the existence of something thats mathematically irrelevent to the outcome.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/765 "2017-12-14T08:28:36Z")

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There is no proof that these plex aren’t confiscated plex, which were paid for. as the smarter business (and ingame-economical) decision is to use confiscated plex, it is unreasonable to assume they create fresh plex out of thin air. it’s that simple, really. we can only speculate, but we shouldn’t speculate that CCP is stupid when it comes to the economy.

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/766 "2017-12-14T09:02:16Z")

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A wireless signal was sent from the titanic in 1912 and they managed to save people. Guglielmo Marconi was said to have made the tech in 1897.

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**Author:** ![Gregorius\_Goldstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gregorius_goldstein/32/11133_2.png) [@Gregorius\_Goldstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gregorius_Goldstein)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/767 "2017-12-14T09:03:42Z")

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I didn’t sell PLEX for ISK when I started two years ago. I do it now.  
Question is more why everyone and his mom wants to PLEX their accounts?

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/768 "2017-12-14T09:06:59Z")

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Because more and more leechers and carebears infect new players’ minds with it, so they don’t just play but instead grind for isk, to reach a sub. that it is too easy to make money makes it worse.

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**Author:** ![Gregorius\_Goldstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gregorius_goldstein/32/11133_2.png) [@Gregorius\_Goldstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gregorius_Goldstein)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/769 "2017-12-14T09:12:42Z")

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At one point people have to get their points straight:

- PLEXING is not freeloading because someone has to buy the PLEX and sell it
- CCP should do something so I can get cheaper PLEX

Pick one. Either you want to freeload and don’t mind beeing called a freeloader or you are fine with the fact that you pay the ISK I want for my PLEXES I bought with cash.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/770 "2017-12-14T09:33:37Z")

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The Titanic was equipped with a Telegraph and a Marconigraph but was not equipped with voice telegraphy. Not even military ships of the first world war had this.

There was debate at the time of the Titanic which system would become the most widely adopted, with wireless telepraphy winning and continuing in use for many decades.

It is also I believe accepted that Marconi invented the telephone first, but Bell was the first to patent a design and so it usually creditted with it, especially in the US.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/771 "2017-12-14T09:44:07Z")

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When you support lower PLEX prices, you support RMT.

You don’t want to support RMT, do you?

🧐

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/772 "2017-12-14T09:44:19Z")

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> [@JC\_Mieyli](#):
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> also on behalf of the soviet nation of russia i would like to apologise for poisoning your entire family with pollonium  
> let us make it up to you by offering you this doughnut  
> its a pollonium flavoured doughnut  
> with real pollonium flavouring  
> its a traditional soviet recipe

Surely, an accident at a nuclear plant has nothing to do with the price of PLEX?

A quick Google-search turned up a rather alarming number of nuclear accidents in - let us say - the western parts of the world. Although fallout was nowhere near that of the tragic Chernobyl incident, there were deaths, and I think it highly irresponsible (not to say insensitive) of you to treat these matters as suitable for lighthearted banter on an internet video game forum.

Learn where to draw the line, or have it drawn for you.

PLEX is so expensive right now that I haven’t bought one off the market in ages. Or was that the other thread?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/773 "2017-12-14T09:47:55Z")

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RMT and by extension botting of course!

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/774 "2017-12-14T09:48:55Z")

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Nothing insensitive about this. It’s part of reality. You’re asking for self censorship here and you should know better than that.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/775 "2017-12-14T09:49:55Z")

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HELP FIGHT BOTTING AND RMT!

BUY PLEX NOW!

… isn’t it amazing how things tend to simply fall into place sometimes? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/776 "2017-12-14T10:13:28Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> Nothing insensitive about this. It’s part of reality. You’re asking for self censorship here and you should know better than that.

Hi Yellow, I always speak out when I feel moved to do so, and I’m (usually) careful to take the wider view, as I did, above.

If by ‘reality’ you mean that a radioactive substance was indeed released into the atmosphere following a nuclear incident at a location in the Ukraine (former Soviet Union), you are correct; and so was the poster, by implication.

I maintain though that this was more than off-topic (which doesn’t bother me), more even than the controversial insertion of RL politics (bashing the CCCP and Russia) into the EVE forums; it was a tasteless and immature attempt at humour off the back of real-world tragedy.

I always ask for self-restraint. I do so not in the expectation of its happening, but in order to plant a seed, whose fruit is equanimity, without a certain amount of which it is difficult to discuss anything in a reasonable fashion.

It worked with a certain S, who became severely rattled when forced to step back and take stock. I quickly deleted the post as soon as I became aware that he’d read it.

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**Author:** ![Marek\_Kanenald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marek_kanenald/32/257788_2.png) [@Marek\_Kanenald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marek_Kanenald)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/780 "2017-12-14T11:54:48Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> f I sub the account you Buddied:
> 
> -1 How much did you pay for that PLEX you got?
> 
> -2 How much did I pay for that PLEX you got?
> 
> -3 Who paid CCP for that PLEX, and how much?

Holy ■■■■ how hard is it.

You pay $15 (or whatever else) to buy a subscription AND a PLEX for your buddy. It is a package.

If I buy a menu at McDonalds how much do I pay for the fries? How much for the coke? How much for the burger? How much for the patty of that burger? How much for the lettuce? How much for the pickle?

YOU CANT SEPARATE COSTS IN A PACKAGE DEAL. You pay for the whole, not a part of it.

Is it really THAT hard to understand?

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/781 "2017-12-14T12:00:02Z")

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Woah there, Mr. Economics!

You pay only for the burger, of course, but they manage to bait you into paying way over price by adding free stuff to it! How hard can it be to understand that? All the additional goodies don’t cost them anything, they just create them out of thin air! Wow, man, do you even run a business? Next you claim workers need to be paid too!

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/782 "2017-12-14T12:20:09Z")

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He ignored the fact that billing calls a sub and a sub+PLEX different items so I wouldnt try logic with him.

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**Author:** ![Marek\_Kanenald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marek_kanenald/32/257788_2.png) [@Marek\_Kanenald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marek_Kanenald)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/783 "2017-12-14T12:39:20Z")

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Pickle: $9.50

Free hamburger, coke and fries.

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**Author:** ![LulKlz\_Duster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulklz_duster/32/129692_2.png) [@LulKlz\_Duster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LulKlz_Duster)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/784 "2017-12-14T15:54:31Z")

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I hope prices go up even more. 2-3 billion for every 500 plex sound awesome to me. Because I actually buy it. Some nerd wants to spend in-game money to fund my time, who am I to say no.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/788 "2017-12-15T08:44:33Z")

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\*sips tea… watching out for fellows in big coats and hats watching from behind a cooy of PRAVDA

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