# Ccp response needed. whats being done to lower plex prices **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 25, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792 "2017-07-25T18:43:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/932 "2017-12-19T14:48:32Z")
> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#): > > This is not how science works. This is how science works: You cant claim something is true, without proving it so. You cant prove “All PLEX is paid for”. You cannot claim it as true. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/933 "2017-12-19T14:54:04Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > You are the last person in the world that I would want to have a voice convo with. Is that clear enough for you? Sure. Its clear you are a coward that lacks conviction of his views as to defend them. > [@Aaron](#): > > My statement describes you exactly. You have no idea who I am. Instead of facing me in voice, you resort to insults that break forum rules. I find that pathetic and reprehensible. Man up, or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Aergri\_Evingod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aergri_evingod/32/116437_2.png) [@Aergri\_Evingod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aergri_Evingod)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/934 "2017-12-19T14:55:06Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You cant claim something is true, without proving it so. to start a prove one could claim that the claim ‘all plex are paid for’ is true … there exists a method of prove in mathematics that employs this. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/935 "2017-12-19T14:58:41Z")
> [@Aergri\_Evingod](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > You cant claim something is true, without proving it so. > > to start a prove one could claim that the claim ‘all plex are paid for’ is true … there exists a method of prove in mathematics that employs this. None of us can prove it until CCP reveals the data we dont have. There is no way, mathematically, from the data we have, to discern whether the introductions of PLEX listed there, are paid for, or not, unless CCP answers my question. If you claim there is a mathematical method to do so without disclosure by CCP, please post it. ---
**Author:** ![Aergri\_Evingod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aergri_evingod/32/116437_2.png) [@Aergri\_Evingod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aergri_Evingod)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/936 "2017-12-19T15:00:21Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > unless CCP answers my question. hmm might be that professional discretion means that they have to abide with not answering even if they could. just suggesting ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/937 "2017-12-19T15:02:22Z")
Thats up to them. But without it, we cannot claim “All PLEX is paid for”, as we simply dont have the required data to ascertain/prove that. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/938 "2017-12-19T15:04:29Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > This is how science works: > > You cant claim something is true, without proving it so. > > You cant prove “All PLEX is paid for”. > > You cannot claim it as true. No it isn’t [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/6/e66b0b051623eb08c79c27ed04b10ed258539051.jpeg "Richard Feynman: Likelihood of Flying Saucers") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R14lkKZUNw) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/939 "2017-12-19T15:06:24Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > No it isn’t Yes, it is. You are confusing assumptions, with truth. Show me evidence that all PLEX is paid for. You cant. I cant. We just dont know. A more relevant vid would be Feynman responding to the question of how magnets work. He didnt know either, nor does anyone else. There are huge gaps in our scientific understanding of weak/strong forces, which we revolve around in an attempt to hopefully eventually fill them in. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/940 "2017-12-19T15:08:45Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Show me evidence that all PLEX is paid for. Please describe what kind of evidence could even possibly exist that would convince you one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/941 "2017-12-19T15:11:02Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Please describe what kind of evidence could even possibly exist that would convince you one way or the other. A simple statement from CCP, as per the data they are privy to, that we arent. **Are Buddy/Discovery/Event/Reward PLEX sourced from paid confiscated PLEX, or not?** Its that simple. Id think this is obvious. You are lagging far behind, ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/942 "2017-12-19T15:14:15Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > A simple statement from CCP, as per the data they are privy to, that we arent. It was already linked in this thread that there are PLEX which get created: > [@Event Testing - Welcome to the Agency](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-testing-welcome-to-the-agency/6408/60): > > They are created. So who is lagging behind? And in this thread it was stated that: > [@CCP\_Dragon](#): > > Unfortunately we can’t drop or give it out in any quantity that is desirable without cutting into our sales. At that point, it is likely that we would just be reducing our sales, not reducing the price of the PLEX on the market. Which implies that the MAJORITY of PLEX is payed for. ---
**Author:** ![Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/disney_s_magic_kingdom/32/44531_2.png) [@Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Disney_s_Magic_Kingdom)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/943 "2017-12-19T15:14:47Z")
Why is this still open… What’s being done to lower plex prices? Nothing. /thread ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/944 "2017-12-19T15:15:26Z")
So I was right all along. The myth that “All PLEX is paid for”, is false. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/945 "2017-12-19T15:15:31Z")
I think its safe to say this is still off topic. The amount of “free PLEX”, if it exists is not enough to effect the market. Ergo this is just a dead end with the same phrase being repeated without any justifiable outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/946 "2017-12-19T15:16:40Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > So I was right all along. > > The myth that “All PLEX is paid for”, is false. You are also the only one who thinks this is in any way relevant ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/947 "2017-12-19T15:17:43Z")
Its extremely relevant. That you dont understand why/how, doesnt change that. Just shows how far behind you are lagging, again. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/948 "2017-12-19T15:19:06Z")
You are still talking the same nonsense ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/949 "2017-12-19T15:20:11Z")
And when you ask why he will say “work it out yourself”. The man has no clue as to why his point (which he introduced in the first place) is irrelevent. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/951 "2017-12-19T15:22:36Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The man has no clue as to why his point (which he introduced in the first place) is irrelevent. Its crucially relevant as to the nature of PLEX. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792/952 "2017-12-19T15:22:56Z")
A question asking you to provide evidence is not a denial. You were unwilling or unable to provide evidence but CCP did. And in doing so confirmed the amount of PLEX was too small to have a noticable impact. So now thats done and you are proven right about something you decided that was important and failed to prove yourself, whats next? What was the point of it, Savaloy? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792.md?page=45) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-response-needed-whats-being-done-to-lower-plex-prices/11792.md?page=47)