# CCP screws everyone but big nullsec cartels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907 "2018-08-22T16:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/673 "2018-08-31T15:14:03Z")
Nobody has argued these changes would invert the weak to suddenly be strong, nor is that an intent/issue of reducing systemic Player NS security/safety. Im genuinely dissappointed in you. Are you shilling, trolling or just dont get how badly you are contradicting yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/674 "2018-08-31T15:16:29Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Nobody has argued these changes would invert the weak to suddenly be strong, nor is that an intent/issue of reducing systemic Player NS security/safety. So what is the intent other than being a placebo effect? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/675 "2018-08-31T15:21:25Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > So what is the intent other than being a placebo effect? Wat… You think Delayed Local, no Asset Safety, no Insurance and limited Watchlist in Player NS will be a “placebo effect”? A placebo effect, is when you are subjected to a non-active stimulus, as compared to an active one, in the belief you got the latter. You are losing this badly, and wildly flailing for traction. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/676 "2018-08-31T15:27:16Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Wat… It has no meaning. It’s a meaningless change. When a change doesn’t change the overall balance among the players then it has no effect other than being a placebo effect. Sure, it’s a change, just like a placebo pill is a pill you get to swallow (opposed to not swallowing anything), but it has no meaningful change. Of course a placebo pill can make someone change their belief, like suddenly they feel better or more sick, when they should in fact feel no change. Change however needs to be meaningful or it’s just a waste of time and money. Perhaps explain what the meaning of your change is supposed to be. And please don’t say “it’s meant to make null-sec harder”. You don’t live in null-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/677 "2018-08-31T15:33:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/678 "2018-08-31T15:34:41Z")
Take the cigarette out of your face. I don’t watch your nicotine-induced rants. Use the forum and write it out like everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/679 "2018-08-31T15:43:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/680 "2018-08-31T15:44:47Z")
Didn’t watch it, just flagged it as spam. I’m not going to watch a video with the title “@ Whitehound”. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/681 "2018-08-31T15:48:39Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Didn’t watch it Ofc not. > [@Whitehound](#): > > flagged it as spam Its OC. (Original Content), the very opposite of spam. > [@Whitehound](#): > > I’m not going to watch a video with the title “@ Whitehound”. So you arent going to watch OC that is directed, and addressed, specifically to you. Ok. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/682 "2018-08-31T15:53:04Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Ofc not. If you have something to say, but cannot put it into simple writing then I’m not interested. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/683 "2018-08-31T15:54:52Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > Ofc not. > > If you have something to say, but cannot put it into simple writing then I’m not interested. I did even better. I made vids, especially for you, where I say it directly to you, with my own voice and face, simply. ---
**Author:** ![Mai\_Hantaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mai_hantaka/32/474180_2.png) [@Mai\_Hantaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mai_Hantaka)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/684 "2018-08-31T15:55:30Z")
A proper argument for adjusting nullsec would take the following form: 1. Link to CCP statements on nullsec design or at least a summary on the posters understanding of nullsec design. 2. Arguments on where the design is failing. 3. Proposed adjustments and how they would address the shortcomings (and in the ideal case also the likely drawbacks of said adjustments). Instead we get “I don’t like it and therefore it must be nerfed in the following ways”, with the so-called solutions already having been discussed to death on the forum. The fact that CCP hasn’t implemented any of these solutions despite them being discussed for years in the forum is already a good indication of the overall quality of these ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/685 "2018-08-31T15:57:28Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I made vids, especially for you, where I say it directly to you, with my own voice and face, simply. And always with a cigarette in your face. I cannot take you serious. Do you think of yourself as being serious? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/686 "2018-08-31T15:57:48Z")
> [@Mai\_Hantaka](#): > > The fact that CCP hasn’t implemented any of these solutions despite them being discussed for years in the forum is already a good indication of the overall quality of these ideas. Or, inversely, its an argument evidencing CCP coddling Player NS, for years. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/687 "2018-08-31T15:59:11Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > I made vids, especially for you, where I say it directly to you, with my own voice and face, simply. > > And always with a cigarette in your face. I cannot take you serious. Do you think of yourself as being serious? Yes, Im quite serious. Wtf does my smoke have to do with what Im saying? Do you think some people that post here in text arent smoking while doing so? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/688 "2018-08-31T16:02:43Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Wtf does my smoke have to do with what Im saying? It’s the nicotine. Doesn’t matter if it’s legal or illegal, alcohol or dope or nicotine. You keep shoving the stick into your face and you talk while exhaling like any other addict before you. I cannot help you with it, but I won’t watch your videos while you smoke and at the same time try to make sense of your thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/689 "2018-08-31T16:04:24Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > I cannot help you with it, but I won’t watch your videos while you smoke and at the same time try to make sense of your thoughts. Wow. So now Im wrong, cos Im nicotine addled. Amazing… Gimme a minute, Ill make a new vid reply with no cigarette, so we can put this ■■■■ to rest. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/690 "2018-08-31T16:08:14Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > So now Im wrong, cos Im nicotine addled. No. You’re wrong, because you cannot put it into writing like everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/691 "2018-08-31T16:13:06Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/4/8470423df3d4753316a9256a9ff73875ba6d7036.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/692 "2018-08-31T16:19:20Z")
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