# CCP screws everyone but big nullsec cartels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907 "2018-08-22T16:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/753 "2018-08-31T18:52:19Z")
Have you even looked at how many get popped on a daily basis? Don’t assume as you look stupid! ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/754 "2018-08-31T18:52:25Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > The players matter more than the environment. I agree. Thus Player NS should: -Arrange its own Intel in Delayed Local. -Defend its Citadels, instead of Asset Safety. -Pay in SRP, rather than Insurance. Goddam shill, you faceplanted right into that. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/755 "2018-08-31T18:55:10Z")
> [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > We think null sec should do without such risk-reducing, and convenience features. And I’d like to read all about it. Only do I not see where the problem is. What you fear is a problem, just isn’t shared by everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/756 "2018-08-31T18:55:16Z")
Not nearly enough by the looks of it ---
**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/757 "2018-08-31T18:56:13Z")
And why are you so concerned with how much gets popped? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/758 "2018-08-31T18:56:42Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > What you fear is a problem, just isn’t shared by everyone. Ofc its not shared by nullbears. Ofc they will resist any change in risk, balls to the wall. That is what we are seeing here. ---
**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/759 "2018-08-31T18:57:47Z")
Any change to Null gets the biggest tears every time! ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/760 "2018-08-31T18:58:07Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Thus Player NS should: Why should it? We could remove high-sec and make it all null-sec. But why should we? ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/761 "2018-08-31T18:58:12Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > And I’d like to read all about it. Only do I not see where the problem is. What you fear is a problem, just isn’t shared by everyone. There isn’t a problem. There is a perspective… a philosophy. If you think null should have tons of goodies, plus free intel, this, that, and hell, even CONCORD, more power to you. If CCP thinks this is a way to make more money from their game (and it probably is), more power to them too. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/762 "2018-08-31T18:59:02Z")
Because highsec is carebearville and there’s not enough destruction ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/763 "2018-08-31T18:59:36Z")
And, @Salvos_Rhoska (sorry, couldn’t resist): ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/9/8990bc70eaf18f889923b8cdae052009962be495.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/764 "2018-08-31T18:59:52Z")
Then stop whinging and do something about it! Or does HS scare you? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/765 "2018-08-31T19:00:01Z")
> [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > There isn’t a problem. There is a perspective… a philosophy. You mean it’s an opinion. An opinion by people who don’t actually live in null-sec. Now that’s something which makes sense. But then again, that’s not your point. Instead, you want to change the space you don’t live in, but others do, making this anything but a good opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/766 "2018-08-31T19:00:37Z")
NICOTINE AND CAFFEINE MAKES ME STRONK! :DDDDD ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/767 "2018-08-31T19:01:03Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > You mean it’s an opinion. An opinion by people who don’t actually live in null-sec. But I do live in nullsec. And I’ve stated this. I’ve lived in nullsec and wormsec for years. I’m currently in nullsec even as I’m writing this. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/768 "2018-08-31T19:02:25Z")
> [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > But I do live in nullsec. And I’ve stated this. I’ve lived in nullsec and wormsec for years. I’m currently in nullsec even as I’m writing this. And you want to give up on ship insurances, asset safety, immediate local and watchlists? Is this what you’re saying? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/769 "2018-08-31T19:04:41Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > And you want to give up on ship insurances, asset safety, immediate local and watchlists? Is this what you’re saying? Why dont you want to give them up? If you want them systemically, move back to HS. Otherwise, as I explained above, you can do the same with scouts, defending structures and SRP. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/770 "2018-08-31T19:05:38Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Why dont you want to give them up? I’m asking him this question since he says he lives there and you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/771 "2018-08-31T19:06:33Z")
People hate rules and in High Sec there are rules! It scares most Null players as they have to use Game mechanics which most have no clue about! ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/772 "2018-08-31T19:06:38Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > Why dont you want to give them up? > > I’m asking him this question since he says he lives there and you don’t. You dont know where I live, or where Ive been. Nor does it matter. Also LOL at completely ignoring the rest of my post, which has nothing to do with your response, but is seminal to topic and YOUR previous question. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907.md?page=37) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907.md?page=39)