# CCP screws everyone but big nullsec cartels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907 "2018-08-22T16:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/142 "2018-08-24T08:07:59Z")
NCDOT have a ganking group operating in Niarja fyi. ---
**Author:** ![Kannibal\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kannibal_kane/32/83992_2.png) [@Kannibal\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kannibal_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/143 "2018-08-24T08:09:15Z")
wow… just wow… There is a name I have not seen in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/144 "2018-08-24T08:09:17Z")
Yeah, economy works very well for you, especially if you are a goon who can print trillions of isk from thin air in “almost” perfect safety 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/145 "2018-08-24T08:12:09Z")
I find it very hard to reason with you and be civil. Especialy when myself and other posters highlighted what the goons are doing and how or why and how others are doing it and why ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/146 "2018-08-24T08:12:26Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > Yeah, economy works very well for you, especially if you are a goon who can print trillions of isk from thin air in “almost” perfect safety 😅 Are you jealous, too? They do CTAs just to farm NPCs. They are being order by their leadership to do it. That’s the secret. The space was occupied before. It didn’t make the previous owner rich. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/147 "2018-08-24T08:13:09Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > It didn’t make the previous owner rich. Actually it did, but the Goons stepped it up to a whole new level. And damned impressive it is too. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/148 "2018-08-24T08:13:11Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > I find it very hard to reason with you and be civil He’s jealous and butthurt at the same time. It’s a funny combination to watch. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/149 "2018-08-24T08:14:46Z")
I am really sorry that my ideas does not fit into your pro-goon (isk printing machine) narative 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/150 "2018-08-24T08:15:42Z")
I’m actually affiliated to NCDOT. I try to keep away from the Kool aid my buddies drink since I seen many wars over the years ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/151 "2018-08-24T08:15:47Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > I am really sorry that my ideas does not fit into your pro-goon (isk printing machine) narative 😅 At least you now accept that it’s the owner of the space who is doing it and not CCP giving it to them. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/152 "2018-08-24T08:16:18Z")
The butt-hurt is strong in here 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/153 "2018-08-24T08:17:02Z")
The Goons have made this themselves, others have also done it but not as well. I have been an enemy of the Goons quite often, however I can see and acknowledge just how well they have played it. Currently I am +5 to the Goons in this war. They deserve it because they have done it. And their actions in hisec are all part of it. So step back and think about it. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/154 "2018-08-24T08:19:57Z")
Funny, when others have objection about people printing ludicrous amounts of isk from thin air is just jealousy, but when you talk about average Joe who blunt his keyboard in high sec grinding for a pathetic amount of isk, then is about game mechanic issues and risk vs reward balance. How much hypocrisy… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/155 "2018-08-24T08:20:58Z")
I don’t disagree that hisec has been made too poor in terms of Isk/hour in the main, but talk about that not what the Goons have done by effort. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/156 "2018-08-24T08:20:58Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > Funny, when others have objection about people printing ludicrous amounts of isk from thin air is just jealousy, but when you talk about average Joe who blunt his keyboard in high sec grinding for a pathetic amount of isk, then is about game mechanic issues and risk vs reward balance. How much hypocrisy… Where am I saying that? 🤣 High-sec is supposed to be poor. Nobody ever said they should be rich in high-sec. Not that you cannot be rich and live in high-sec, only the mechanics are designed to make it harder to get rich, whereas in low- and null-sec does one find better resources, but it also drives the conflict up. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/157 "2018-08-24T08:22:57Z")
You want to supercap rat in highsec anom or rorqual mine in highsec belts?what will you do with this wealth you accumulate will you fight anyone for the next 0.6 belt? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/158 "2018-08-24T08:23:31Z")
Of course, logs are read automatically, so it can beep a sound. CCP never though about such log use. If they would eliminate chat logs writting to local computer, that would eliminate this tool. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/159 "2018-08-24T08:24:40Z")
Is not even about goons especially, as there is just a case where things are pushed to a ludicrous scale… Is about hypocrisy and the fact that people are able to print absurd amounts of isk in null sec; in same time the dwellers from that areas always have complains about how easy is to make isk in high sec and how bad is the risk vs reward there. That is the main issue! ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/160 "2018-08-24T08:25:00Z")
There are bigger issues with automation than near 2 .Namely all the damn bots and the new upcoming ESL feature that’ll allow easy contract botting ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-screws-everyone-but-big-nullsec-cartels/99907/161 "2018-08-24T08:25:58Z")
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