# CCP selling special edition assets for $ **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 17, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271 "2023-11-17T16:43:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/187 "2023-12-14T01:39:35Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Only a ludicrous person would interpret that from what I posted. It is _exactly_ what you have implied with your dishonest presentation and statement that ’ It definitely doesn’t apply to…etc’. There is no other way to read it. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > nobody said they all quit due to being ganked. It’s precisely what _you_ are saying when you present ‘the numbers’ and then rule out faction war, NPCs, etc etc. You yourself never present some other explanation that is not ganking. It’s the usual dishonest forum arguing. Present stuff that clearly implies something and then spend 300 posts worth of ’ oh nooo…that’s not what I was saying’. Yeah…right. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/188 "2023-12-14T01:42:42Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Funny how all you gankbears automatically focus on obscure aspects and disregard the main point… let me recap … > [@Yasminka\_Duchovnavik](#): > > And the reasons, are all over the forums. > > 1. Ganking/Toxicity this was the part of the post i answered ! > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > That 2015 FF Presentation by CCP Rise was a bunch of BS propaganda… this way your answer on my answer i said to you : > [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > i didnt see any numbers from him and this was clearly in relation of the first post that ppl leave because ganking ! now you come up with : > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > He’s not talking about losing a ship to Faction War, Alliance / Corp wars or to NPC’s. sure i dont talk about all this stuff because it was never part of anyones post ! it was all about "ppl leave because of ganking " then you also said that Hilmar had in his presentation of 2019 denied that rise was right … and where are the numbers who tell us that rise was totaly wrong ? nobody gave us ! hilmar didnt tell this ! its only in your mind that you think that hilmar said rise was wrong but ! so all your words are nonsense and completly wrong ! i dont believe anyone like you who only wants to talk his opinion but refuse the hard facts that CCP collects and make it public ! EDIT: and after all youre only way to come out of this “discussion” was to critism my grammar ? my grammar with english as second language ? how your grammar would be if i you would write german … ( or any other second language ) EDIT 2: btw … you dont follow the main point aswell 😉 the main point of this thread is ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/e/6/6e6954daa541d9c0fa4e9f4e81213854f36c8e46.png) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/189 "2023-12-14T01:47:05Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Key words = get revenge He’s making a point that is totally correct. I’d have left Eve _from boredom_ had I not been ganked ( actually 6 weeks into the game ). The revenge thing kept me in the game long enough after that to lose interest in the revenge but gain more interest in the game. I can say from my own experience that the statement by CCP is 100% correct. It _is_ precisely what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/191 "2023-12-14T01:58:18Z")
Im sure i joined this forum before june 2017 … ---
**Author:** ![Imminent\_Conclusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imminent_conclusion/32/396965_2.png) [@Imminent\_Conclusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imminent_Conclusion)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/192 "2023-12-14T01:59:04Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > Im sure i joined this forum before **#METOO** ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/193 "2023-12-14T02:07:21Z")
Yeah. [#METOO](https://eve-search.com/stats/mr_epeen) Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/194 "2023-12-14T03:31:33Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > The two following characters should consider playing the game for a change instead of finding things to work themselves into a lather over in the forum all day, every day. Lol… I make it an average of 4.8 hours a day over 817 days. And you don’t get my total of 520 kills ( across my most active accounts ) and 20 losses by sitting in dock. ![eve_playtime](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/a/1caa6872f92b7b1661d6c2f097864ce6038a07cf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/195 "2023-12-14T03:42:02Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > then you also said that Hilmar had in his presentation of 2019 denied that rise was right … and where are the numbers who tell us that rise was totaly wrong ? nobody gave us ! hilmar didnt tell this ! its only in your mind that you think that hilmar said rise was wrong but ! > > so all your words are nonsense and completly wrong ! i dont believe anyone like you who only wants to talk his opinion but refuse the hard facts that CCP collects and make it public ! He’s conflating two entirely separate things. One of the oldest tricks on the forum. The fact that 90% of new players left within the first week was _nowhere_ connected with any stats about the numbers ganked within the first 15 days, which was this chart which I notice no-one ever seems to display here ( I wonder why )… ![noobs_ganked](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/0/1/d01003fe65fd28bb6265e940d442d35f2b7a2c10.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/196 "2023-12-14T04:56:46Z")
The numbers are legit, but what most people don’t know/get about them is that they’re perfectly in line with the video game industry for games _as a whole._ It’s not that EVE is doing exceptionally bad, it’s that long-term (30-day-plus) retention rates of above 2% are exceptionally rare, _in general._ It has nothing to do with the “evil griefer sociopaths” or whatever. CCP can remove all non-consensual PvP from the game tomorrow, and even if that results in a bigger player base, the retention rate is still going to be similar. ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/198 "2023-12-14T08:24:25Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > and even if that results in a bigger player base, the retention rate is still going to be similar. When I first installed eve in 2008 or whenever it was, I was horribly shocked by the fact I cannot control my ship with a joystick and it instantly made the game unattractive to me because my expectations were way off x) ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/199 "2023-12-14T12:21:37Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > He’s conflating two entirely separate things. I know…hes just following his own ideology! > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > hich was this chart which I notice no-one ever seems to display here ( I wonder why )… he postet the YT video and it was in the first few mins … yes i could have post this chart … maybe a mistake because i thought that hes knowing this facts … and he IS knowing this facts but he said said: > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > That 2015 FF Presentation by CCP Rise was a bunch of BS propaganda… > [@Komi\_Valentine](#): > > When I first installed eve in 2008 or whenever it was, I was horribly shocked by the fact I cannot control my ship with a joystick and it instantly made the game unattractive to me because my expectations were way off x) yeah this was very similar to me as i tryed it about 2005 … i played about 2 min and then i realised its not a game where i can fly my spaceship like in elite dangerous or any similar … i instantly deletet it and then i remembered about this game in 2012 and take closer look into it ! and what i saw was great ! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/200 "2023-12-14T22:07:18Z")
How come we can not contract these 3 items? ![cat-skins](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/2/5/7256db46128d952bd03b5776ccf893113309790f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/201 "2023-12-15T00:52:06Z")
are they in your ship hangar or container maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/202 "2023-12-15T03:18:23Z")
No they were the skins from the nes store costing 1 plex each I redeemed them, was going to contract them to Princess. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/203 "2023-12-15T08:54:26Z")
Those are from the NPE tutorial, it’s set up to introduce players to the NES and in the future hopefully buy other skins. In order to actually complete that section of the NPE tutorial, you’re suppose to activate the skin and apply it to the Destroyer you received in the NPE. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/204 "2023-12-15T09:41:24Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > NPE tutorial @Iceacid_Frostpacker is a new player confirmed. 😏 🧐 😊 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/205 "2023-12-15T10:38:05Z")
Guess anybody can buy them now. Each of the 4 main Factions have 3 different T1 Destroyer skins available in the NES for 1 Plex each. Just can’t trade or sell those skins… ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/206 "2023-12-15T10:44:54Z")
I’ve completed the old (or is it the old old by now 🤔) NPE tutorial back then so I wonder. If I don’t forget to do it then I’ll check the NES next time I sign in. And if yes then there is only one course of action to take: I guess I will have to use them on a catalyst I gank @Iceacid_Frostpacker with, this is clearly CCP’s intention with all this, there is no other explanation. :psyccp: 😏 😇 Maybe don’t even have to gank him, I’ve heard he has an active public killright on his head right now. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/207 "2023-12-15T10:57:55Z")
Yeah, I had also completed the tutorial after CCP implemented it with the AIR program. Back then you could only choose 1 of the 3 different T1 Destroyer skins for 1 Plex to complete that section of the tutorial… Anyway, earlier today I logged into the game to collect my Vanguard Capsule skin reward from the NES and saw those 1 Plex Destroyer skins were available, course only 2 of the 3 skins were available for me to purchase since I had already bought 1 while doing the NPE. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271/208 "2023-12-15T14:02:35Z")
I logged into Vanguard accidently with my only alt account, guess where the skin went 😢 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-selling-special-edition-assets-for/428271.md?page=11)