# CCP starter pack generating SP out of thin air - Where's the update? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 3, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023 "2019-08-03T13:50:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Senior\_Beavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senior_beavis/32/169662_2.png) [@Senior\_Beavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senior_Beavis)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/1 "2019-08-03T13:50:48Z")
So when people got upset about being able to buy 1M SP, Falcon ree’d about making changes to it “soon” to make it more of a new player thing instead of just being straight “$$ for SP out of thin air”. See his post in closed thread here: [CCP is at it again](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-is-at-it-again/169684/73) Now, over a month later, what changes have been made? Oh, it’s on the launcher now advertising to buy their SP pack…completely unchanged. [https://puu.sh/E0Lqa/49ce99b575.png](https://puu.sh/E0Lqa/49ce99b575.png) Guess I shouldn’t have expected better. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/2 "2019-08-03T14:03:54Z")
Who cares at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Senior\_Beavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senior_beavis/32/169662_2.png) [@Senior\_Beavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senior_Beavis)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/3 "2019-08-03T14:04:59Z")
I mean, they seem to give 0 craps about the state of the game at this point, but it would be nice to think they’re past blatantly lying to our faces. At least have the balls to say “this is how it’s gonna be” instead of “Oh we’re sorry, it wasn’t our intention, we’re gonna change it, blah blah” and then sweep it under the rug. Spamming it on their ad-filled launcher after the fact is double as insulting. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/4 "2019-08-03T14:46:03Z")
it’s not really a big deal and nothing new , the event going now gives skill points as reward … only buying it from ccp for cash instead of buying plex , selling it for isk , then buying injectors to get the same result . only downsides it may be setting a hard cap on skill point value , and sp farmers probably don’t like the competition … ---
**Author:** ![Miulan\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miulan_ng/32/167268_2.png) [@Miulan\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miulan_Ng)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/5 "2019-08-03T16:03:23Z")
[Caveat emptor.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-vexor-navy-issue-and-alpha-clone-drone-skill-changes/176347) Buyer’s 1,000,000 SP subject to retroactive escrow without compensation. Offer may contain unhealthy levels of _salt_… ---
**Author:** ![Gneeznow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gneeznow/32/138237_2.png) [@Gneeznow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gneeznow)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/6 "2019-08-03T16:41:59Z")
This, oh woe to you fools who still have hope. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/7 "2019-08-03T19:01:26Z")
The first time I’ve heard about SP trading I knew it will be just a start to further milk players with microtransactions. The whole “SP will come from players only” is a fairy tale. SP system is flawed, outdated, there is no point of it today, since it is not avatar base game why we should bother with it. They just monetize it for profits. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/8 "2019-08-03T20:14:45Z")
Ahhahah CCP are total liars NEWS AT 11 NEWS Rain = Wet ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/9 "2019-08-03T20:55:50Z")
> [@Senior\_Beavis](#): > > I mean, they seem to give 0 craps about the state of the game at this point, but it would be nice to think they’re past blatantly lying to our faces. At least have the balls to say “this is how it’s gonna be” instead of “Oh we’re sorry, it wasn’t our intention, we’re gonna change it, blah blah” and then sweep it under the rug. Spamming it on their ad-filled launcher after the fact is double as insulting. No they simply don’t care about complainers that want the status of 2003 cemented and carved in stone forever… Those people have hindered the developement of this game for YEARS now,recently CCP gets the point that the only chance to develope this game into the future is to ignore the complains of those backward faced people because they will complain WHATEVER CCP will do and so ignoring them is actually a good thing… That they are polite in it is not really accusable… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/10 "2019-08-03T21:11:11Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > No they simply don’t care This^ ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/11 "2019-08-03T22:38:33Z")
> [@Senior\_Beavis](#): > > Now, over a month later, what changes have been made? Oh, it’s on the launcher now advertising to buy their SP pack…completely unchanged. [https://puu.sh/E0Lqa/49ce99b575.png](https://puu.sh/E0Lqa/49ce99b575.png) Falcon said it would only be available to purchase for new players. Maybe they changed it so that accounts who are over a certain age are barred from purchasing? I have no idea im typing this from work. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/12 "2019-08-03T22:42:43Z")
I attempted to buy it. 9 yarens young on this account, already had bought the first version, let me get all the way up to putting my Paypal details in. Which I didnt on principle. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/13 "2019-08-03T22:47:53Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I attempted to buy it. 9 yarens young on this account, already had bought the first version, let me get all the way up to putting my Paypal details in. Okay, guess not then. Yeah, CCP still doesnt care about us. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/14 "2019-08-03T22:52:16Z")
Yeah. I guess they finally shot the last gamer in “By gamers for gamers” or whatever bs they wanna spin these days Still, Im sure New Coke will be an improvement, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Natashalynn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natashalynn/32/142458_2.png) [@Natashalynn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natashalynn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/15 "2019-08-03T23:06:37Z")
Coffee & Coke, yes please! On the starter pack update…All things in moderation imo, though this looks a bit over the top. You can still draw ppl in with sp for less sp. I don’t know, I liked all the planning and thinking ahead before skilling into anything. The here and now works too. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/16 "2019-08-03T23:08:45Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I guess they finally shot the last gamer in “By gamers for gamers” or whatever bs they wanna spin these days Yeah, the same “Were providing gamers a choice with lootboxes” BS we hear all the time. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Still, Im sure New Coke will be an improvement, eh? If we ever get a New EVE, I dont know if ill be alive to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/17 "2019-08-04T00:01:24Z")
I recall buying this starter the moment it was on the DLC even before the Blog I think/ 6/24/2019 11:13:26 AM UTC PayPal 1 x EVE Online: Starter Pack $4.99 Paid It was only 250,000 SP when I first purchased, then the next day I read the change to 1,000,000 SP Sorry I can’t recall if there was also Plex inside the starter packer the day I purchased, but I think they took that plex out and bumped it to 1,000,000 Someone might be able to confirm it is changed like how I think I saw it back then. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/18 "2019-08-04T00:25:13Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Sorry I can’t recall if there was also Plex inside the starter packer the day I purchased, but I think they took that plex out and bumped it to 1,000,000 Yeah, i bought it when it was 1 mill skillpoints, which tbh was probably worth more than the plex. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/19 "2019-08-04T00:32:46Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Yeah, i bought it when it was 1 mill skillpoints, which tbh was probably worth more than the plex. Yeah, the thread that was locked, similar to this topic here was created on the 26th June, this was a few days after the first change. See It was changed twice I think, first was on or about the 24th right before shutdown the Sp was 250,000 SP then I think after the 26th or sooner it was changed to 1,000,000 SP so I think it was changed to how it will remain by giving the 1Million SP instead of the plex and just 250k SP. Either way I am happy, I have a few alts to help me do things now. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023/20 "2019-08-04T00:33:41Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Yeah, the thread that was locked, Why am i not surprised. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-starter-pack-generating-sp-out-of-thin-air-wheres-the-update/180023.md?page=2)