# CCP, stop making augmentations/apparel different for male/female **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 19, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252 "2019-12-19T13:38:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/1 "2019-12-19T13:38:41Z")
For example, the new holiday facial augmentations are red for females, and white/silver for male. The Empyrean Dragons jackets also bug me - they look entirely different… Why? Can we stop this? ---
**Author:** ![Cartheron\_Crust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cartheron_crust/32/372053_2.png) [@Cartheron\_Crust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cartheron_Crust)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/3 "2019-12-19T14:14:22Z")
Why can I still not wear women’s clothes? :\< ---
**Author:** ![Rovinia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rovinia/32/483428_2.png) [@Rovinia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rovinia)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/4 "2019-12-19T14:46:59Z")
First world problems… 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/5 "2019-12-19T14:48:27Z")
What the ■■■■ are you on about? Literally nobody said anything about gender dysphoria you clown. ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/6 "2019-12-19T15:21:52Z")
I see here that nothing needs to be flagged and why it was is a thought crime. 🧐 ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/7 "2019-12-19T15:22:21Z")
Oh dear not a thought crime. ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/8 "2019-12-19T21:37:00Z")
![Face](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/e/3ed7d62825358228b0a8dcac23beca6b4f666064.png) ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/9 "2019-12-19T23:01:53Z")
Who said anything about revamping character creation…? ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/10 "2019-12-20T00:17:23Z")
too lazy to make a new meme with apparel learn to read between the lines its called imagination ![aeticulate](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/6/76f09f705f90153eb5e581ed3c359f37836dc37b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/11 "2019-12-20T01:06:16Z")
> [@Sen\_Isu](#): > > The Empyrean Dragons jackets also bug me - they look entirely different… > > Why? Breasts. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/12 "2019-12-20T09:13:37Z")
Topic is about colors but everyone shits around genders, character creation and no WiS… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/13 "2019-12-20T11:06:32Z")
Well, in my opinion the color scheme for the Apparel items should be more consistent among the various NES Apparel items. Take for instance the color hue of the Women’s ‘Corsair’ Heels (brown), they don’t really match any of the NES items and the only exception that I’ve seen is the stock Brown Leather Vest and Jacket in Character Customization. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/14 "2019-12-20T12:43:20Z")
We don’t need this gender crap here… Gender is a dual thing defined by genetics nothing more… Get adult and face the scientific facts. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/15 "2019-12-20T16:19:15Z")
“Diversity is just watering the straight.” – Balos Tritapo / Duro Peripar ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/16 "2019-12-20T16:54:43Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Gender is a dual thing defined by genetics nothing more… Nothing like a troll demonstrating their ignorance and doing a better job of making themselves look bad than a hundred critics could ever dream of. PS: before embarrassing yourself again perhaps you should learn the difference between sex and gender? ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/17 "2019-12-20T16:57:29Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > before embarrassing yourself again perhaps you should learn the difference between sex and gender? Sex is what genders do to each other? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/18 "2019-12-20T17:18:45Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Gender is a dual thing defined by genetics nothing more Nope, sex is defined by biology, and it’s not solely restricted to male and female. Gender is something else entirely, it’s a social construct that refers to societal roles and relationships based on the concepts of femininity and masculinity; as such gender is somewhat fluid depending on different societal norms and/or an individual’s perception of self. ---
**Author:** ![Kanzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanzero/32/394038_2.png) [@Kanzero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanzero)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/20 "2019-12-20T17:32:13Z")
Go be a SJW somewhere else. Link related: ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/21 "2019-12-20T17:58:28Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > “Diversity is just watering the straight.” > > – Balos Tritapo / Duro Peripar Right… And? What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/22 "2019-12-20T18:05:35Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Nope, sex is defined by biology, and it’s not solely restricted to male and female. > > Gender is something else entirely, it’s a social construct that refers to societal roles and relationships based on the concepts of femininity and masculinity; as such gender is somewhat fluid depending on different societal norms and/or an individual’s perception of self. Nope.simply nope…only two genders in reality… And eyery try to “change gender(or sex if you want to make this point clear because this is basically the same regardless what kind of social construct you are referring to)” is of just cosmetic nature… As long as this is the fact,means as long has science not invented a way to literally change your genetic code,REALLY turning you into a male or female from the opposite all tries to “change gender” are literally stupid and pointless and even the try should be forbidden. Sry but this is called opinion you may have yours but this will not change the fact… Feelings of sole beeings are no factor in a scientific approach to this theme. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252.md?page=2)