# CCP, stop making augmentations/apparel different for male/female

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 19, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252 "2019-12-19T13:38:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/23 "2019-12-20T18:08:51Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> PS: before embarrassing yourself again perhaps you should learn the difference between sex and gender?

There is no difference…

Again…how you FEEL does not matter…just how you were born…

This defines you as man or woman.

And as long as science is not able to change it,you are stuck with it…

Maybe next century will show a solution…

Again…i’m not against “the change” if one really wants it …i just don’t see the point with todays possibilities…

Edit:

I searched a bit in old game forums because i knew i heard of this in an older game(baldurs gate as i know now…

Seems this theme is older than you all think…and seems we have to use magic 🙂

> **[Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity](https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Girdle_of_Masculinity/Femininity)**
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> The Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity is a cursed belt in Baldur's Gate, its Enhanced Edition, and Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear. It can be found on the body of the girdle ogre in the Coast Way. It can later be imported into Baldur's Gate: Siege...

See that it refers to “gender” and not “sexuality”?

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/25 "2019-12-20T18:25:14Z")

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Clothing is always gender neutral…

I mean who hinders you to wear a skirt as a male if you fit into one and your legs are ok? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/26 "2019-12-20T18:28:59Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> Nope.simply nope…only two genders in reality…

Nope. Only two genders in your ignorant view of the world. History and culture disagree with you.

> As long as this is the fact,means as long has science not invented a way to literally change your genetic code,REALLY turning you into a male or female from the opposite all tries to “change gender” are literally stupid and pointless and even the try should be forbidden.

Uh, right, because the most important thing in a person’s life is their genes and making any changes without genetic changes is pointless. Tell me, do you even _know_ what your sex chromosomes are?

> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> There is no difference…

Nope, that’s just you being ignorant and proud of it. There are clear differences in concept between sex and gender. One refers to identity, social roles, appearance, etc, and the other refers strictly to chromosomes and reproductive organs. Thus the difference between “be a man” and “be a male”, where mentioning your XY genes is not a compelling reply to someone calling you a coward.

> i just don’t see the point with todays possibilities…

Then perhaps you should ask some of the people who do it and try to understand the benefits they experience. But maybe they’re all just clueless and failing to understand how miserable their life is without having their genes change…

> See that it refers to “gender” and not “sexuality”?

And now you’re adding another layer of ignorance.

Hint: sexuality is about who you are attracted to, not your sex or gender.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/27 "2019-12-20T18:34:47Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> And now you’re adding another layer of ignorance.
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> Hint: sexuality is about who you are attracted to, not your sex or gender.

Calling people with a different opinion ignorant is the SOLE definition of ignorance…but if you have to to feel better you seem to have to right?

Well…

I made my point,science is no whishing well…and any “definition of gender” to “explain diversity” is simply not relevant…

Only XX and XY count,just the facts,no feelings or believes…

I’m out because of real life…

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/29 "2019-12-20T18:59:23Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-making-augmentations-apparel-different-for-male-female/207252/30 "2019-12-20T19:00:14Z")

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Don’t mind me, just going to cut this off ahead of the pass.

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