# CCP Stop me from throwing Money at DU, give us WIS! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 16, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472 "2018-06-16T21:15:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/41 "2018-06-17T18:34:22Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > a childrens dream come true. The average age of player in EVE is around 30. There are only few percents of players below 18. The chart starts from 13. If EVE and forums would be available for adults only, they could bring all adult stuff adult capsuleers are capable of and know about, pleasure hubs and gambling with ISK too. Now game looks more like a disneyland with few evil clowns. Graphic ship on ship action… ---
**Author:** ![Jian\_Mira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jian_mira/32/509519_2.png) [@Jian\_Mira](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jian_Mira)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/42 "2018-06-17T20:53:45Z")
I think WIS would of been good if they would have used the Unreal Engine ![WiS_screen_13](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/4/046299bff17d1db738e3651a5f4ef4fada8b61a2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/43 "2018-06-17T21:00:48Z")
not to mention fast 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/44 "2018-06-18T00:01:01Z")
First thing I’d do is have a look what’s outside that window ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/45 "2018-06-18T06:16:44Z")
But it is a tech demo not a game right? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/46 "2018-06-18T06:20:18Z")
DU is Pre ALpha, will be MMO ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/47 "2018-06-18T06:26:18Z")
So you can download an play it already? ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/48 "2018-06-18T07:23:34Z")
yes it is pre-alpha and you can play it few hours a week ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/49 "2018-06-18T09:12:32Z")
So what are you still doing here? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/50 "2018-06-18T09:38:02Z")
Hehe watched some gameplay, and I have Landmark flashbacks. The same choppiness in loading stuff up, voxel tech is just what it is. Also have seen peoples builds and its usually what I have seen in Landmark, some levitating buildings, sometimes someone having more time to do something pretty. I would give it a go to try and do something like that: [https://forums.eveonline.com/uploads/short-url/vOMOB04AP6f4pU6eAgq0Gg8HnxX.jpg](https://forums.eveonline.com/uploads/short-url/vOMOB04AP6f4pU6eAgq0Gg8HnxX.jpg) BTW loks like space engineers creators are stopping development soon? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/51 "2018-06-18T11:04:16Z")
Just spending rest of my PLEXs ---
**Author:** ![Nomy\_Noya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomy_noya/32/79580_2.png) [@Nomy\_Noya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomy_Noya)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/52 "2018-06-18T11:28:33Z")
Well, DU doesn’t have to do much in the PVP sandbox department to become a serious threat to the now neutered, softened and carebeared up EVE. By becoming more mainstream, and less pvp sandbox niche, over the years CCP have effectively dragged EVE into the pool of “normal MMO’s” which it then has to compete with and can’t ever win from, long term. And now there might just be a pvp sandbox competitor on the horizon, and in the weakened state EVE is in… that might become an issue. I had never heard of DU, I’ve checked some YouTube vids and (tried to) eliminate hype fanboism. I want this to happen so much! ---
**Author:** ![Reaver\_Argon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reaver_argon/32/186525_2.png) [@Reaver\_Argon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reaver_Argon)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/53 "2018-06-18T12:13:16Z")
you can actually give as much as you want for DU. As for SC. Its called “funding”. because “Crow-Funded” ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/54 "2018-06-18T12:18:31Z")
It is a miracle that what they managed to accomplish with a dozen programmers and a minimum amount of money, I think this is the last moment for a ccp to wake up. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/55 "2018-06-18T12:46:17Z")
Damn. I’ve been with CCP for 10+ years and given them possibly thousands of dollarydoos by now… But if Dual Universe cashes in even half of its promises I think I’ll leave EVE behind. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/56 "2018-06-18T14:31:32Z")
But dual universe will not be really much more than what you see on those gameplays. Maybe a bit improved, but not too much. Having seen what the development looks with Landmark in closed beta, I would say its rather what you see now, is what will be there at the end. People will only make more ugly builds as time goes by and they care less. Actually Landmark is no more, it was inferior in some points to Dual Universe, but then it was better than Dual Universe in others. I particularly would miss Landmark’s build tools, and very detailed voxel build system. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/57 "2018-06-18T14:43:00Z")
Holy crap. I never heard of DU, but if it can provide the best of Eve and SC, I’ll force money down its throat! ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/58 "2018-06-18T17:07:53Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > Just spending rest of my PLEXs Just contract them to me and off you go to a game you actually like. I’m here to help friend 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/59 "2018-06-18T17:09:15Z")
You don’t deserve it. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-me-from-throwing-money-at-du-give-us-wis/83472/60 "2018-06-18T17:11:30Z")
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