# CCP stop those annoying NPC Mining fleets **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 25, 2018, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352 "2018-12-25T09:20:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/286 "2019-01-23T08:55:56Z")
You mean forcing people that not WANT a fight against whoever INTO a fight is a solution? You must be kidding… “Coming out of the comfort zone” …looool… ridiculous…people are just leaving if they have to “leave the comfort zone”… THIS is the reality. Face it… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/287 "2019-01-23T09:00:25Z")
I am facing it, I am telling that moving a bit out of their comfort zone is worth doing. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/288 "2019-01-23T09:02:22Z")
Than also face that nobody would follow you…the solution is not MORE PVP style fights(FOB) the solution is LESS… ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/289 "2019-01-23T09:07:12Z")
PARTY A is bored and wants to pew PARTY B is bored and want to pew. PARTY C is not bored and wants to mine PARTY A and B hunts PARTY C, kill it several times and got frustrated PARTY C do not fall in love with them. PARTY A and B shout loud in forums they have no one to fight and space is empty. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/290 "2019-01-23T09:08:01Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > PARTY A is bored and wants to pew > PARTY B is bored and want to pew. > PARTY C is not bored and wants to mine > > PARTY A and B hunts PARTY B, kill it several times and got frustrated PARTY C do not fall in love with them. > > PARTY A and B shout loud in forums they have no one to fight and space is empty. PARTY C can mine in peace at last…nothing wrong about that 😛 ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/291 "2019-01-23T09:11:06Z")
A little editing here… And done should work now xD ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/292 "2019-01-23T10:07:25Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Than also face that nobody would follow you…the solution is not MORE PVP style fights(FOB) the solution is LESS… But Balos, FOB is PVE not PVP. The solution is learn the game and ask for help. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/293 "2019-01-23T10:11:28Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > PARTY A is bored and wants to pew > PARTY B is bored and want to pew. > PARTY C is not bored and wants to mine > > PARTY A and B hunts PARTY C, kill it several times and got frustrated PARTY C do not fall in love with them. > > PARTY A and B shout loud in forums they have no one to fight and space is empty. Party C shouldn’t be playing a multiplayer PvP game if they can’t deal with the fact that they’re playing a multiplayer PvP game; of which Eve is one. I am what some would class as a carebear, but unlike people such as yourself or Balos I accept that I am playing a multiplayer PvP game and plan accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosha_freya_amaght/32/103319_2.png) [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosha_Freya_Amaght)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/294 "2019-01-23T10:37:28Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Balos : Eve must become more mainstream (I suck at Eve, it’s too hard.) > Someone: Why? > Balos : It’s 2019. (Eve should be easy like other MMOs where I’m spoon fed content and I don’t have to make an effort or think about stuff.) means… EVE has to become the same modern mainstream crap. means … to be playable by brainless people. Idiocracy is coming over us in big steeps, not only ingame but also in IRL. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/295 "2019-01-23T10:53:24Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > PARTY C can mine in peace at last…nothing wrong about that 😛 People who want that can already go play X3, X4 or Elite Dangerous. So explain why do they necessarily have to have that for some totally different game ? ---
**Author:** ![Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosha_freya_amaght/32/103319_2.png) [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosha_Freya_Amaght)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/296 "2019-01-23T10:58:01Z")
because they are unable to adapt. they want just an easy mode. they are mainstream people, they need someone leading them. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/297 "2019-01-23T11:09:25Z")
FoB are fine if the scaling works better and the reward matches. The concept is not a problem for anyone with a brain. The problem is that either you use a super cheese fit to kill them solo, or you get punished for trying to do them in a group. You get especially punished for trying to include lower skill pilots. Solve that and they become amazing content. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/298 "2019-01-23T11:11:07Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > So explain why do they necessarily have to have that for some totally different game ? Is a good question. The sooner they release star citizen with pvp sliders the sooner they can jump ship. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/299 "2019-01-23T12:10:33Z")
That would require them to not be afk tho 😂 Or, you know, put some effort in lmao ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/300 "2019-01-23T12:10:51Z")
> [@xxxTRUSTxxx](#): > > But Balos, FOB is PVE not PVP. PVP STYLE as in “i kill your pod”… ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/301 "2019-01-23T12:11:48Z")
> [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](#): > > means… EVE has to become the same modern mainstream crap. > means … to be playable by brainless people. Exactly…because it is WANTED that way by all beside of a negligible minority… Signs of the time…face it or leave it… Nobody forces you to play a game like that… ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/302 "2019-01-23T12:16:04Z")
> [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](#): > > because they are unable to adapt. > they want just an easy mode. > > they are mainstream people, they need someone leading them. The funny thing here is that mainstream always was and ever will be the majority…you are just loud that’s all… But loudness does not mean you are right… ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/303 "2019-01-23T12:19:45Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Party C shouldn’t be playing a multiplayer PvP game if they can’t deal with the fact that they’re playing a multiplayer PvP game; of which Eve is one. simply wrong…CCP should protect them and make it possible for them to play their playstyle undisturbed by others…if you leave the safezones and face the danger -your decision- but inside the safezone you SHOULD be safe…other games do it…it would not kill eve…stop those armageddon crap… ---
**Author:** ![Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosha_freya_amaght/32/103319_2.png) [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosha_Freya_Amaght)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/304 "2019-01-23T12:19:47Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Nobody forces you to play a game like that… Exactly… means: if this day come… i unsubb my 15 account. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352/305 "2019-01-23T12:20:19Z")
> [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](#): > > Exactly… > > means: if this day come… i unsubb my 15 account. And we people with a common sense will sigh in relief at this day… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352.md?page=16)