# CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 8, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455 "2025-11-08T11:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Kariemi\_Tekitsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kariemi_tekitsu/32/440317_2.png) [@Kariemi\_Tekitsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kariemi_Tekitsu)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/243 "2025-12-02T08:56:20Z")
> **[remove the survey ffs :: ARC Raiders General Discussions](https://steamcommunity.com/app/1808500/discussions/0/614304932234909639/)** > > i don't wanna do survey multiple times a day, make an option for it. literally no other game has this, for a reason. This might be of relevance to you. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/244 "2025-12-02T08:58:49Z")
Thanks. I’m surprised they’re doing surveys—ARC Raider’s devs seem talented, and surveys usually add more noise than value. But I digress. ---
**Author:** ![Tina\_Mori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tina_mori/32/393220_2.png) [@Tina\_Mori](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tina_Mori)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/245 "2025-12-02T22:32:21Z")
More like Star Trek, than Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/246 "2025-12-03T00:26:53Z")
1MN Afterburner II just sounds boring. And they did this for almost all T2 items. - Damage Control II - ​Warp Scrambler II - ​Warp Disruptor II - ​Afterburner II - ​Microwarpdrive II - ​Adaptive Nano Plating II - ​Kinetic Plating II - ​Thermal Plating II So on so forth /s ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/247 "2025-12-03T06:22:54Z")
It’s a simple straightforward player-made thing. Nothing to discover, nothing special in it’s characteristics like the meta, faction or other sourced versions of those modules. It’s simply an improved version of the T1 player-made thing. I don’t think those names are bad in that situation. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/248 "2025-12-07T12:23:30Z")
This looks more immersive 🙂 ```auto Distance Name Type Size ----------------------------------------------------- 3,468 m Large Kernite and Ore Deposit 8,751 m Omber Omber 10 km Omber Omber 9,937 m Omber Omber 13 km Omber Omber 17 km Kernite-5 Kernite-5 19 km Kernite Kernite 20 km Kernite Kernite 22 km Omber Omber 24 km Omber Omber 23 km Omber Omber 28 km Kernite-10 Kernite-10 28 km Omber Omber 29 km Kernite Kernite 29 km Omber-5 Omber-5 30 km Omber Omber 30 km Kernite Kernite 31 km Kernite-5 Kernite-5 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/249 "2025-12-11T11:58:03Z")
This is an urgent matter: the ore names should be updated now that more immersive, flavorful options exist —for example, renaming _Yterium IV-Grade_ to _Yterium-20_. Its urgent. ---
**Author:** ![Tina\_Mori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tina_mori/32/393220_2.png) [@Tina\_Mori](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tina_Mori)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/250 "2025-12-14T21:12:53Z")
They never asked any player about changing ores to just Grades: I preferred the old names (why the sudden change after nearly 20 years??). ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/251 "2025-12-14T22:34:53Z")
> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#): > > This is an urgent matter: 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/252 "2025-12-15T10:03:50Z")
Saying it’s urgent may actually slow things down. Deep down, I’m frustrated with how the game is being maintained, and it’s hard not to feel cynical about the company’s long-term direction—even if any real consequences might be years away. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/253 "2025-12-15T10:59:02Z")
Is an LLM even capable of such feelings like ‘frustration’ or ‘cynicism’? I’d prefer if you stuck to the topic at hand, and not spam chatgpt messages here. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/254 "2025-12-15T11:36:59Z")
Why should they? It’s their game and there’s only a handful of players upset with it, the others like me aren’t bothered either way. I used to arrange them by icon size anyway, I still do. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/255 "2025-12-15T14:25:34Z")
I wonder how for example Kernite-5, Kernite-10 and Kernite-15 would be sorted by name.. My guess is Kernite-5 would come last—not ideal, but not terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/256 "2025-12-15T16:09:50Z")
Could do (Name)-05. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/257 "2025-12-15T16:49:22Z")
Ore I Ore II Ore III easy ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/258 "2025-12-15T17:52:49Z")
that may still be too complex for the current generation of players. how about “ISK thing”. And then without I , II or III. Just “ISK thing”. And the gameplay loop is “click ISK thing”. Shouldn’t even be nessessary to compress or refine and sell it. Just click and get ISK from the “ISK thing”. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/259 "2025-12-15T17:55:02Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Why should they? Just assuming but probably they received complaints and found it to be the way to go based on that to change things this way, unless they just do things for the sake of doing things to create the impression they are “innovating”. We may never know either way. 🤔 :psyccp: Though the CSM might have information about this, but not sure if they can actually share it if they do. 🤔 :psycsm: > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Is an LLM even capable of such feelings like ‘frustration’ or ‘cynicism’? Stop oppressing his simulated feelings! 🤔 😏 🤭 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Lusty\_Lucy\_Cybaritic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lusty_lucy_cybaritic/32/452862_2.png) [@Lusty\_Lucy\_Cybaritic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lusty_Lucy_Cybaritic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/260 "2026-01-16T23:22:18Z")
I just got back from my winter vacation, I see we still have these trash ore names. Did they at least fire the employee who obvious did this sabotage? If not, I want to apply for work at CCP. When you can take a dump on the game like this, and the boss thinks it smells sweet as honey, I should be able to handle a job like that no problem! Mine Safe ⛏ ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/261 "2026-01-16T23:35:28Z")
Slightly overreacting to make an over 250 pages reply post out of such a simple change….. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/262 "2026-01-17T00:54:31Z")
Really? So why is your name not Player-#84344? Why did you feel choosing a non-dumbed-down name was necessary for you? Are you special? Also you are keeping a thread of which you claim it is too long going again now. Irony? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455.md?page=14)