# CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 8, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455 "2025-11-08T11:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/303 "2026-01-19T01:14:41Z")
> [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > ‘less intimidating to new players’ also fits here.. If that was the goal, they totally missed it. I can create an _intuitive_ and _immersive_ system that any newbro can understand on first glance in less than an hour. I mean, back in the 2000 when Diablo II released, absolutely _nobody_ had a problem to understand how > - TYPE: ruby, sapphire, topaz, emerald, diamond, amethyst, skull > - QUALITY: chipped, flawed, regular, flawless, perfect worked together. It was absolutely _obvious_ for even total beginners. if now, 25 years later, a designer would present me his idea of “grade I, grade II, grade III…” I would probably beat him out of the office with an old copy of an early Blizzard game. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/304 "2026-01-19T01:18:50Z")
It’s the opposite of creative. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/305 "2026-01-19T01:26:33Z")
All these proposed ‘fixes’ are gonna be too complicated for these people. We should just go back to grunting and groaning like our prehistoric ancestors. Who needs language? It’s not like it’s one of the best inventions of man. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/306 "2026-01-19T01:27:34Z")
ughhh ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/307 "2026-01-19T02:59:36Z")
ccp dug a hole for themselves by making over 100 unique ore names. if they’d standardized on ore name and three upgrade names for all the types it may have been more accepted than grade I, grade II.. don’t really care much, myself. i’m still mad i don’t have to carry 6 different kind of probes and launch 16 au run a scan recall and reload 8 au probes launch and run a scan then recall and load 4 au probes and launch and run a scan i’m so sad they dumb this game down see what i did there ? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/308 "2026-01-19T10:49:40Z")
I’m really sad now…i never had the chance to mine: Doped Eifyrium Firewater Ytirium Moonshine Ytirium Inky Griemeer Serrated Hezorime Argil Kylixium Royal Ducinium Imperial Ducinium Plunder Mordunium Nature was really colorful back then. Now it is only dull and gray and uninspiring… ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/309 "2026-01-19T12:57:10Z")
> [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > ccp dug a hole for themselves by making over 100 unique ore names. Nothing that cannot be simply undone. It’s a few hours programming effort at best for someone knowing his job to limit the unique ores to like 16 and add 5 different qualities. Which leads to 80 variants that can be balanced in isk/m³ and then spread over all existing mining sites to give them whatever value and mineral output they want. It’s literally work that could be done by a junior developer. > [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > i’m still mad i don’t have to carry 6 different kind of probes and launch 16 au run a scan recall and reload 8 au probes launch and run a scan then recall and load 4 au probes and launch and run a scan i’m so sad they dumb this game down see what i did there ? 😉 No I actually don’t, because those two examples have absolutely _no connection_. A proper naming scheme is immersive and intiuitive, it _adds value_ to the game. What you described is _unnessessary_ and _tedious_ while not offering a signle benefit to the game or it’s players. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/310 "2026-01-19T20:41:06Z")
> [@Power\_Armor](#): > > I’m really sad now…i never had the chance to mine: I’m thinking of anchoring a few depots named ‘Dense Veldspar’, ‘Massive Scordite’, ‘Iridescent Gneiss’, etc around the Galaxy in protest. ---
**Author:** ![Zedminer\_Severasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedminer_severasse/32/377928_2.png) [@Zedminer\_Severasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedminer_Severasse)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/311 "2026-01-19T20:54:36Z")
So say we all! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/312 "2026-01-20T02:29:27Z")
> [@Srima\_Darkstar](#): > > Which one is better? The best one is the one that fits my hand. For example, most 9mm handguns are too large. I can’t easily reach the slide release or the safety. Thus, the best one is the one that fits. ---
**Author:** ![Wing\_Tunsu\_WonTons](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wing_tunsu_wontons/32/481678_2.png) [@Wing\_Tunsu\_WonTons](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wing_Tunsu_WonTons)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/313 "2026-01-20T05:46:41Z")
We need bigger rocks. I like big rocks ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/b/a/5ba6c7dc60e7eea02b3bcf19531deee3f6559c8f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/314 "2026-01-20T09:18:01Z")
Why not go a step further and just have colors as names for variations for everything including weapons, that keeps the `colorful` nature of naming yet also keeps it simple. 🤔 😉 :psyccp: 🍿 > [@Glenduil](#): > > The best one is the one that fits my hand. 🤔 😏 🤭 :ccpguard: > [@Wing\_Tunsu\_WonTons](#): > > I like big rocks And you cannot lie? 🤔 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/315 "2026-01-20T09:22:37Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Why not go a step further and just have colors as names for variations for everything including weapons, that keeps the `colorful` nature of naming yet also keeps it simple. I’d be very happy if the whole UI was able to be colored. For example- why can’t I change the colors of my chat tabs? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/316 "2026-01-20T09:26:52Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > change the colors No idea. On that note remember when the Neocom still had colored icons? 🤔 :psyccp: ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/317 "2026-01-21T11:19:47Z")
Simply stop overreacting, get adult or go outside for a while….this clears the mind…..THIS whole thread is totally unecessary, stupid and not worth the time of anybody beside 15 year old minded people that cry ‘I DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE AT ALL’ in their minds……. And to the people that want to jump on me for this statement let me say this : you all have to allow opinions even if they contradict your own, that is called the right of free speech… ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/318 "2026-01-21T11:24:18Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’d be very happy if the whole UI was able to be colored. For example- why can’t I change the colors of my chat tabs? People are outraging about a couple of changed letters in the ui and you seriously want to do THAT? Good luck 😛 316 replies about this babyfart…….You are all childish about that….. ---
**Author:** ![Eileithya\_Carmenta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eileithya_carmenta/32/487561_2.png) [@Eileithya\_Carmenta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eileithya_Carmenta)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/319 "2026-01-21T12:21:26Z")
Hello > [@Uta\_Asmai](#): > > .THIS whole thread is totally unecessary, stupid and not worth the time of anybody I agree. Their complaint is ridiculous and childish. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/320 "2026-01-21T14:34:47Z")
If you two wish to share a real opinion on the topic, why do you do so on anonymous throwaway forum alts? Do you not wish to be associated to the things you say you stand for? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/321 "2026-01-21T15:09:24Z")
Caught a veldspar miner, he tasted like chicken ![hood](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/7/0/e70c8f14749868e510b58548803273157e32aa50.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/322 "2026-01-21T18:29:55Z")
No he didn’t. That’s an error in the simulation. It can’t simulate that many flavors, and it reuses that one more than any others. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455.md?page=17)