# CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 8, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455 "2025-11-08T11:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/515929_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/323 "2026-01-21T19:02:23Z")
![GSSO](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/d/d/cdd14948dd5cfae9767a6a80ec86231c182c4073.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/324 "2026-01-21T19:23:39Z")
> [@Uta\_Asmai](#): > > Simply stop overreacting, get adult or go outside for a while….this clears the mind…..THIS whole thread is totally unecessary, stupid and not worth the time of anybody beside 15 year old minded people that cry ‘I DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE AT ALL’ in their minds……. > > And to the people that want to jump on me for this statement let me say this : you all have to allow opinions even if they contradict your own, that is called the right of free speech…. You keep coming back to this ‘‘unnecessary’’ thread and posting. Why is that? We who find this topic worthwhile keep posting if we want – yes, it is called free speech, and free speech goes both ways, by the way – and we have no problems spending time outside or doing other activties that keep our minds healthy either. You find this topic unnecessary, but you keep talking about it. Me – I avoid _reading_ threads/posts I deem ‘‘unnecessary’’ let alone posting replies to them. Look who’s talking about ‘‘unnecessary’’ and ‘‘stupid’’ activity. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/326 "2026-01-21T20:57:54Z")
Go back to the names. Calling everything I II and III is insulting. Might as well do the same thing with ships. Instead of an Atron, call it ‘Gallente Ship Type-A1’, and a Megthron ‘Gallente Ship Type-A5’, and everything in between… Or ‘Gallente Small Ship’ and ‘Gallente Big Ship’. This was one of the dumbest, most needless changes I’ve seen in my 17 years of playing Eve Online, right up there with Blackout in terms of pure stupidity and obvious detriment to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/327 "2026-01-21T21:03:28Z")
blackout was amazing ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/328 "2026-01-21T22:01:43Z")
One of these days, I’d like to fly one of the “Really Big Angel Cartel Ships” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/515929_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/329 "2026-01-21T23:14:42Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > Might as well do the same thing with ships. Instead of an Atron, call it ‘Gallente Ship Type-A1’, and a Megthron ‘Gallente Ship Type-A5’, and everything in between… Or ‘Gallente Small Ship’ and ‘Gallente Big Ship’. Yes but you [forgot about this](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/323) future change. And this would make them Cyan and not Gallente. The Atron is called the Cyan Ship Type A1 and the Megathron is renamed the Cyan Ship Type A5. If they get this approved, I plan to move a lot of freight in the confusion. > [@Glenduil](#): > > Really Big Angel Cartel Ships Who knows what colors he will use for the pirate factions? It might be a “Really Big Yellow Ship” or “Really Big Orange Ship”, I always get those factions confused. we need you CCP Fozzie to lead us poor blind players out of the darkness and into the bright light of illiteracy! Please speak to us @CCP_Fozzie we are lost without your words! ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/330 "2026-01-22T00:11:21Z")
Just imagine the _aweseome_ ganks: > Groups of “Green Small Ship D1” kill “Blue Large Ship M2”! Maybe they should also rename the currency to “coins”. “ISK” is way too complex for the audience. Someone might think they mean the real islandic currency and might sue them for fraud if he notices he can’t just “cash out” at an islanding bank! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/331 "2026-01-22T01:11:29Z")
Coin I, Coin II, and Coin III. ---
**Author:** ![Derlin\_Fishen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derlin_fishen/32/477895_2.png) [@Derlin\_Fishen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derlin_Fishen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/332 "2026-01-22T01:45:32Z")
Which adult should I be getting? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/334 "2026-01-22T02:40:10Z")
I reccomend Adult VII. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/335 "2026-01-22T03:03:23Z")
> [@Derlin\_Fishen](#): > > Which adult should I be getting? A sexy one. ---
**Author:** ![Eileithya\_Carmenta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eileithya_carmenta/32/487561_2.png) [@Eileithya\_Carmenta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eileithya_Carmenta)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/336 "2026-01-22T13:30:05Z")
In real-world mining, professionals rarely rely on casual or popular names for what they extract. Instead, they use technical mineral and ore names that reflect precise chemical composition, crystal structure, and geological context. For example, a miner doesn’t say they’re digging for “iron” but for hematite or magnetite; not “copper” but chalcopyrite, bornite, or malachite. These terms matter because different minerals containing the same metal behave differently during extraction and processing, and they indicate distinct formation environments, grades, and economic value. This technical language also helps miners, geologists, and engineers communicate unambiguously across exploration, extraction, and refining. A deposit might be described as a “massive sulfide,” a “vein-hosted quartz–gold system,” or a “lateritic nickel ore,” each phrase carrying specific expectations about hardness, impurities, processing methods, and profitability. In practice, **miners think less in terms of the end metal and more in terms of ore type, gangue minerals, and grade** , because those details determine whether the rock is worth moving at all—and how it must be treated once it is. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/337 "2026-01-22T13:31:21Z")
In Eve, apparently the name of the rock is the most important aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Eileithya\_Carmenta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eileithya_carmenta/32/487561_2.png) [@Eileithya\_Carmenta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eileithya_Carmenta)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/338 "2026-01-22T13:36:18Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > In Eve, apparently the name of the rock is the most important aspect Not anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/339 "2026-01-22T14:40:54Z")
> [@Eileithya\_Carmenta](#): > > A deposit might be described as a “massive sulfide,” a “vein-hosted quartz–gold system,” or a “lateritic nickel ore,” each phrase carrying specific expectations about hardness, impurities, processing methods, and profitability. This is exactly the reason why the old names used to be so good. It used such descriptive and flavourful names for each of the ores! Now we just have a plain and boring number, instead of a descriptive name. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/340 "2026-01-22T15:36:31Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > a plain and boring number, It has come to my attenetion that you do not like numbers which is very odd as you are playing spreadsheets in space. Does maths make your brain hurt Capsuleer 67390573 ? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/341 "2026-01-22T15:39:57Z")
just wait, once they have changed the solar system names to catalogue numbers, also the ships and modules, you will finally understand how _awesome_ all of that is. Just imagine those battle reports: > “Today _big Alliance 543_ attacked _medium alliance 332_ in _star system A-565_ using large amounts of _blue big ship B-II_ outfitted with _large weapon H-II_ from long range. The defenders managed to form a fleet of _gold medium ship C-III_ and engaged them close using _not-warp II_ modules to prevent them from fleeing. With their _medium weapon L-II_ damage they were able to achive a great victory! > The total losses in the fight summed up to 32 million million coins! The attackers will probably need _large time M-II_ to recover from this defeat! Stay tuned and wait for our next report in _time-D1_!” ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/342 "2026-01-22T15:42:38Z")
Reminds me of that system i once saw- J005926(C1) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/343 "2026-01-22T15:46:51Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > It has come to my attenetion that you do not like numbers which is very odd as you are playing spreadsheets in space. > > Does maths make your brain hurt Capsuleer 67390573 ? I have nothing against numbers per se, and use them a lot while playing. I just think numbers are very plain and boring as names of items in a game. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/344 "2026-01-22T15:55:40Z")
Yeah wouldn’t it be _totally awesome and progressive_ to just give them all numbers? What kind of old grumpy boomer dev could have ever the idea to give them _names_??? We don’t need any names in this game any more! In the end, they should even revert all capsuleer names to plain numbers! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455.md?page=18)