# CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade"

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**Created:** [November 8, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455 "2025-11-08T11:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/515929_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/150 "2025-11-10T16:26:14Z")

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> [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](#):
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> How many layers of (unnecessary) complexity is there when it comes to mining? I don’t see that eliminating one of those layers, which does not serve any functional purpose whatsoever, as “dumbing down” or that it has anything to do with instant gratification.

The whole point to flavor in any game is to add immersion content. Fozzie and the other devs are removing the minutiae. This makes their job simple and easier, not the game better.

It is like some new guy walks into your corner shop and tells you he is going _make things better_ and _more simple_. Then he pulls down all the neon signs and removes all the displays. Your clients come in to pick up the displays and neon signs. “What’s wrong with them? Weren’t they selling the product?”. At some point, they either demand ad space or refuse to stock your store because it looks too generic and stale. Old regular customers don’t recognize it anymore and new customers, will come in once or twice to look around, shrug, “I have seen this shop everywhere I go. Nothing new or different here.”. I have witnessed this process on other games and apps attempting to blend in or blatantly copy the others. It never works as they expected. They alienate the current base users and don’t pull in enough new blood to replace the loss.

Fozzie and others like him trot off to the next game to demolish.

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