# CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade"

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**Created:** [November 8, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455 "2025-11-08T11:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455/22 "2025-11-08T16:23:12Z")

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Why do you think I write mining-related posts related to the upcoming mining changes like

> [@Yield comparison of the new mining ships](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/yield-comparison-of-the-new-mining-ships/499595):
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> The [Catalyst expansion](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/catalyst-expansion-launches-18-november) has been announced, bringing us multiple new (mining) ships. Now that the [test server data](https://www.hoboleaks.space/) is out, let’s see what the yield of these new ships is! (I’ll assume max skills and no or the same amount of low slots used for mining upgrades - ships with more low slots can reach higher yield by adding more mining upgrades!) The final numbers compared: Ship Effective ore lasers\* Effective gas scoops\* Effective ice lasers Mining links Note Venture 5 5.33 n/a No — Ventu…

> [@CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade"](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455):
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> Why would CCP get rid of the old flavorful names like “dense”, “fiery” and “golden” from asteroid descriptions?! cry Golden Omber, Platinoid Omber, Stable Veldspar, Silvery Omber, Dense Veldspar, Magma Mercoxit, Concentrated Veldspar, Vitreous Mercoxit… EVE has so many colorful descriptions of ores! And now it’s all going to be “II-Grade” or “III-Grade”?! Great way to reduce immersion and reduce this universe to raw numbers and tiered resources like some cheap knockoff game. …

and not about faction warfare or high sec missions?

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