# CCP to implement a better mechanic for killrights **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pvp, high-sec\ **Created:** [December 26, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181 "2021-12-26T06:16:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/84 "2022-01-03T12:29:04Z")
> [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](#): > > This is PVP only game. No it is not. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Of course, and again, not related to what I meant. That’s not what you mean, but that’s what you require. So that’s actually what you mean. If I ask if you have finally stopped being an idiot, even though the question is about stopping, it actually requires you to be an idiot in the first place, so this is an insult. So maybe I asked it without meaning an insult ; but in reality it means I am throwing insults. Indirect one, but insult nonetheless. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > People who don’t want to pvp, won’t pvp no matter what changes CCP introduce to encourage them to. But you don’t know. You are affirming things out of your ass. I met people who even play in NS, and don’t feel it worth to make a fit to PVP in NS. You give them a NS fit to go get relic, they are happy, but they just don’t want to buy it again after losing it. But if you (I actually) give them more fit, they won’t mind losing it again. So you are talking ■■■■. It’s not their “nature”, it’s how the game IS. PVP is a negative sum game and it’s actually the only correct decision to not take engagement unless you chose it. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I’m just going by the process you laid out. No, you are just talking ■■■■. All your affirmations till there make no sense in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/85 "2022-01-03T13:13:06Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > CCP should just permaban anyone who ganks. > > Shoot one person in Highsec and BAN. > > That’s a step in the right direction. yes, this! but why are you endorsing this? and you people keep arguing about pvp. look, things are simple. the game was designed with diferent areas designed for diferent things. null and low and wh are designed for pvp. high-sec is for relaxed play. but if you really want to pvp in high but don’t what to travel several systems to low, you have the duel mechanic. all this unconsensual high-sec pvp and ganking is really against the core concept of eve and we all know the real reason they don’t reinforce it is because a lot of people would get banned and they think that would hurt player numbers, but in fact it would be healthy in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/86 "2022-01-03T13:50:44Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > No tether This is 100% the most broken part of HS. A structure is considered a ship, but somehow a -10 character can literally sit on the tether from DT to DT. How do gankers get such favor from CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/88 "2022-01-03T20:04:32Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > That’s not what you mean, but that’s what you require. So that’s actually what you mean. No it isn’t. It isn’t black or white in that regard, but I don’t see this going anywhere but in circles. So I’ll just concede that your interpretation, although not at all what I meant in the slightest (a completely different point), is an easy to see implication. My poor wording. Then I’ll just leave it there, because circular discussions just descend into stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/89 "2022-01-03T20:29:13Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Yes, I agree. > > We must permaban all the gankers. Until CCP agrees with this policy, we should strive to socially enforce the rules - do not speak to gankers, or interact with them. Just shun them. Make the bullies feel the condemnation of the community! > > Ganking is GRIEFING and BULLYING in real life - it is no different than actual real-life terrorism and bank robbery. Get these MONSTERS out of our peaceful game. Aiko, we need to start a petition to get all the high-sec PvPers banned from the game. We can spread word of it on the forums, Reddit, YouTube, and our Twitch and OnlyFans channels. ---
**Author:** ![Mandalf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandalf/32/278086_2.png) [@Mandalf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandalf)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/91 "2022-01-04T17:44:55Z")
ORRRR you can just shoot at them in game! ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/92 "2022-01-15T02:14:35Z")
Drama King? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/93 "2022-01-15T14:03:52Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > my proposed mechanics would primarily stop gankers from sitting comfortably on thether at the Uedama Fortizar wint one hand down their pants and sipping coffee while scanning their next victim. Here’s what I simply cannot comprehend :- Instead of nerfing gankers, why don’t the regular inhabitants of Uedama DO something about the ganking problem ? I mean…they all just carry on chewing the grass like wildebeast watching one of their kin get munched by the lions. The entire mentality seems to be ’ glad it wasn’t me '. You’d think that with this situation going on for years and years, by now there would be a big Uedama Protection Force to see off the gankers…rather than a handful of AG-ers who don’t seem to get thanked by anyone. Seriously…the main problem at Uedama is not ganking, it is _apathy_. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/94 "2022-01-15T16:04:21Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Seriously…the main problem at Uedama is not ganking, it is _apathy_. Well, the main “problem” in Uedama is gankers. The next “problem” on the list is _apathy_. If ganking wasn’t so easy for people that are too lazy to work…it wouldn’t be a problem… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/95 "2022-01-15T23:50:29Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Here’s what I simply cannot comprehend :- Instead of nerfing gankers, why don’t the regular inhabitants of Uedama DO something about the ganking problem ? I mean…they all just carry on chewing the grass like wildebeast watching one of their kin get munched by the lions. The entire mentality seems to be ’ glad it wasn’t me '. You’d think that with this situation going on for years and years, by now there would be a big Uedama Protection Force to see off the gankers…rather than a handful of AG-ers who don’t seem to get thanked by anyone. > > Seriously…the main problem at Uedama is not ganking, it is _apathy_. You’re asking the question that people often ask themselves before they come to a particular set of conclusions, and themselves turn into gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/96 "2022-01-16T02:51:11Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > It would be a step in the right direction and a sign of a mature MMORPG that EVE could become. CCPlease implement this! Along with all the microtransactions too, right? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/97 "2022-01-16T02:52:11Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Here’s what I simply cannot comprehend :- Instead of nerfing gankers, why don’t the regular inhabitants of Uedama DO something about the ganking problem ? I mean…they all just carry on chewing the grass like wildebeast watching one of their kin get munched by the lions. The entire mentality seems to be ’ glad it wasn’t me '. You’d think that with this situation going on for years and years, by now there would be a big Uedama Protection Force to see off the gankers…rather than a handful of AG-ers who don’t seem to get thanked by anyone. > > Seriously…the main problem at Uedama is not ganking, it is _apathy_. Because they’re the SJW generation, meaning, they will bleat incessantly until _someone else_ (aka the gub’mint) solves their issue for them. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/98 "2022-01-16T03:12:27Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Because they’re the SJW generation There’s SJW in New Eden? I bet they don’t much like us Amarrians. ---
**Author:** ![Star\_Huntress](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/star_huntress/32/303901_2.png) [@Star\_Huntress](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Star_Huntress)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/99 "2022-01-16T03:48:59Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > There’s SJW in New Eden? I bet they don’t much like us Amarrians. Lolers! I also enjoyed the “look at zkill on the number of freighters ganked”. Uhm, that’s been happening a LONG time. Little secret, AFK bad ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/100 "2022-01-16T11:48:12Z")
> [@Star\_Huntress](#): > > I also enjoyed the “look at zkill on the number of freighters ganked” 😅 Freighters have always been _the_ major targets for attack. I mean, is water wet? lol ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/101 "2022-01-16T17:11:50Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You’re asking the question that people often ask themselves before they come to a particular set of conclusions, and themselves turn into gankers. Well, yes, but then being a bit carebear-ish I find it a lot easier to conjure up a ‘justification’ in which I gank the gankers themselves…as they can’t turn round and do a ’ why don’t you go pick on someone who can shoot back ? ’ sort of thing. Plus I’ve never liked doing anything just because everyone else is doing it. Even if I end up being Solo AG Queen ( gotta be a Queen, better than a Princess )…it’s a role I would enjoy…and that’s what Eve is all about…creating a niche. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/102 "2022-01-17T01:47:10Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I’ve never liked doing anything just because everyone else is doing it. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/103 "2022-01-17T08:59:46Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > . Even if I end up being Solo AG Queen Don’t end up fighting gankers solo , it’s soul destroying and boring, if you become effective they avoid you or try and kill you . Saying that you don’t have to join a corp to do group ag stuff. We often have people outside our corp who want to help and fly with us. Just prove you’re worth and your word and team up. Together we can drive them away and you can still be our Solo Queen😉 A small team can execute most killrights successfully , work together to stop fleet gate camps etc etc. Then when the gankers run off to Hek or Odin you can do other stuff that interest you. Btw how is Governor Lee and Absolute honour , not seen him around of late. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/104 "2022-01-18T14:31:14Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Saying that you don’t have to join a corp to do group ag stuff. We often have people outside our corp who want to help and fly with us. Just prove you’re worth and your word and team up. > Together we can drive them away and you can still be our Solo Queen😉 > > A small team can execute most killrights successfully , work together to stop fleet gate camps etc etc. > > Then when the gankers run off to Hek or Odin you can do other stuff that interest you. > > Btw how is Governor Lee and Absolute honour , not seen him around of late. I’d have to privately tell you who my AG alt is ( its not Cilla ). She’s still setting things up in Uedama…and waiting for various skills. Yep…Cilla is in Absolute Order. Haven’t done much fighting for them yet, but I make ISK contributions every month. They look after new members. Governor Lee looks after the group very well…he’s still very much around. ---
**Author:** ![Torrent\_Talon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/torrent_talon/32/331138_2.png) [@Torrent\_Talon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Torrent_Talon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181/105 "2022-01-23T21:21:26Z")
they’d simply tag their sec upto whereever it was safe for them to travel and continue doing what they do, spending a bit longer to gank 1 more hauler before going to gank miners for the rest of the day. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-to-implement-a-better-mechanic-for-killrights/343181.md?page=6)