# CCP Totally Failed it's Hsec players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 30, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970 "2024-01-30T17:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/204 "2024-02-04T13:48:07Z")
You must overlook that day when the trigger happy goon fitted smart bombs to gank in Uedama as that was not her fault to lose her capsule! May your ships burn inside the hangers as you wait to undock! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/205 "2024-02-04T20:10:21Z")
Getting rid of asset safety wouldn’t help the economy. It would result in a much lower rate of citadel usage overall, compounded by an even greater tendency for player groups to ball up as massively as possible. We’d have one giant null-sec alliance, and few if any citadels in high-sec and low-sec. Barely any would get destroyed because there would be so few to begin with, and the ones that would exist would be defended by 10,000-player fleets. The entire Upwell system is exceptionally flawed. It’s the worst implementation of “land” (space) ownership EVE ever had, and possibly the worst in the history of gaming in general. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/206 "2024-02-04T21:51:33Z")
You seem very reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/207 "2024-02-04T22:34:35Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Hi guys, having fun? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/f/5/5f551bfa9f5a7b8fdd8d8f098609a3d2041d3896.webp) ---
**Author:** ![puffalot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/puffalot/32/414412_2.png) [@puffalot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/puffalot)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/208 "2024-02-04T23:12:59Z")
Just last week I was doing a mission behind the gate in Botane in my Megathron and a Nergal comes in orange flown by Tastelis Karfoong and starts to kill my MTU which was full of mission loot and costed 11m isk. so not really knowing any better because my character is only four months old as long as I’ve been playing the game and I sent my drones in after it assuming that it should be a suspect at this point and that I should be able to blast it out of the water not realizing I was too close and that the ship was too fast next thing I know I am neutered and scrammed helpless on a pve build with them telling me if I give them 200 million isk they will release my ship which I did not have nor did I really believe them so they continue to blow my ship up and my clone I took multiple screenshots and sent them to CCP and they pretty much tell me that it was fair game and the character did not do anything wrong… So needless to say I will not be spending any more money on the game in a while and that I nearly bout quit I was so enraged. Let’s just say I learned a lesson the hard way that day. Yes you can say that I should of known better or I did this and that wrong But in the end I don’t feel that another player that is orange or red should be allowed behind someone else’s mission gate and that is a failure on CCPs part for not protecting players better in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/209 "2024-02-05T00:07:15Z")
> [@puffalot](#): > > I took multiple screenshots and sent them to CCP ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/b/9/2b96ba4f96c57891083d2984362f5cf7a1e32814.webp) **C** hineese **C** ommunist **P** arty ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/f/e9f519f5fa0b9b1bc9f9f464d9900c69221e2a02.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/210 "2024-02-05T00:55:23Z")
What is this thread even about at post 209 now? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/211 "2024-02-05T01:06:48Z")
> [@puffalot](#): > > I will not be spending any more money on the game Thank you for playing EvE Online. We hope you enjoyed your space adventure. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/212 "2024-02-05T01:14:53Z")
You need to post this on Reddit. The devs and griefers here will just make fun of you, so you need to go somewhere where you actually have a voice! ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/213 "2024-02-05T01:21:13Z")
> [@puffalot](#): > > next thing I know I am neutered It’s low hanging fruit, sorry and all that, but LOL ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/214 "2024-02-05T02:05:03Z")
Gates dont stop players unless they are locked gates or ship restricted. Players can use probes to find you. It was fair play what happened to you. Sure it sucks, but dust yourself off and get back out there ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/215 "2024-02-05T03:48:00Z")
Shield, armour, hull tanked rail mega with a medium ancillary armour repairer? With an em shield rig as the only resists? That was a mercy killing. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/216 "2024-02-05T05:03:53Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/d/0/1d03d2ed83a341cc54a9862b03a96f5b1437b5a6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/217 "2024-02-05T05:16:31Z")
He isn’t coming back. Yet another honest player driven from the game by club-swinging neanderthals who can do nothing but rape and murder innocent players because they’re too afraid to go to null-sec to fight _real_ PvPers. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/218 "2024-02-05T05:25:20Z")
Welcome to New Eden. If I may suggest that I would newer submit if I were tackled in fact it is the worst things you could do in space! Never give in to their demands for isk ransom. The smart thing to do is just type GR in local and watch while learning how you might be able to avoid such situation in the future. Now this does not mean to quit. Think of the next big thing you want to accomplish in Eve Online and write notes for your future adventure. Actually could you please link the zkillmail of your ship loss? /@Destiny_Corrupted let’s try to make him stay. Do you want to go halves on his ship loss? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/219 "2024-02-05T06:05:27Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Do you want to go halves on his ship loss? I can’t; griefers have already extorted, stolen, and destroyed most of my money and assets. I barely have anything left, and am effectively forced to fight off my attackers in a Venture-class mining frigate. However, I’ve heard that @Mr_Epeen has considerable wealth holdings, and is very charitable toward the downtrodden victims of illegal PvP abuse. Perhaps he would be willing to fund this initiative? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/220 "2024-02-05T06:08:47Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > _real_ PvPers You mean like @Dracvlad ? You lucky he didn’t duel you, would have spanked your ass as a **real PvPer** > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Do you want to go halves on his ship loss? Forgetting about @Zaera_Keena ? Fang is **space poor** , has mouths to feed. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/0/0/b004bfc9e5f326ba088a943967b11d3f6f871a20.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/221 "2024-02-05T06:21:42Z")
But if you quit how will you get your revenge? This is your moment — your opportunity — of personal growth, to become the big anti-pirate hero. Hunt pirates down, bait them, shoot them out of the sky. Your journey has only just begun. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/222 "2024-02-05T06:26:28Z")
If he links the zkillmail and stays for 14 more days I will replace that ship loss. It clearly shows sounded like he had been baited. Besides, I’ll have extra as I no longer need to send isk to Princess ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/223 "2024-02-05T06:28:04Z")
Inform Princess about my request to speed date her then we might make some arrangements. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970.md?page=12)