# CCP Totally Failed it's Hsec players

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 30, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970 "2024-01-30T17:58:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/405 "2024-02-19T02:07:25Z")

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I hate to agree, but at this point…

I did manage to find 3 or 4 unicorns in my time that were worth helping. Paid them ISK, bought them ships and when they were ready, they left the nest. Never heard from them again! Now you know why I never had kids! 😉 🤣 😂

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/406 "2024-02-19T02:09:02Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> Someone said that was grasping at straws but didnt give his own reason for warp disruption

Simply because you seem to be the only one having a problem with it.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/407 "2024-02-19T02:09:54Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> It seems like there would be more room for experimentation in areas where PVP was on but warp disrupting was off

Have you tried flying without a point? Be the change you wish to see my man. You save a valuable mid slot where you can throw in some more cap or a dual prop, and you give them the honorable chance of warping away. Of course I think that your actual complaint is that YOU can’t warp away. But since you said that you don’t have a problem with loss than that should be fine. You could start a whole corp dedicated to no points, like how @Ax_l_Thorne will tell you Black Rebel Rifters Club won’t use ECM. Be the change man!

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/408 "2024-02-19T02:10:03Z")

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Please share with us all these other people? I see no one else but you?

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/409 "2024-02-19T02:10:46Z")

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I never fly with a point, whats the point? If the other guy wants to warp off thats his choice. Why would i deny him that

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/410 "2024-02-19T02:11:15Z")

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CCP introduced warp disruption because their new Chinese owners told them they had to sell more PLEX. EVE was a much better game before that. Unfortunately that’s the direction the gaming industry is headed.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/411 "2024-02-19T02:11:52Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> I never fly with a point, whats the point?

To have a point, which you do not.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/412 "2024-02-19T02:14:25Z")

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It’s either Blueie or whatever his name was back from the dead or a really good Chinese chatbot!

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/413 "2024-02-19T02:16:11Z")

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Every time i ask a question someone tries to change the subject

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/414 "2024-02-19T02:16:53Z")

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Well, stop asking stupid questions then.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/415 "2024-02-19T02:17:11Z")

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We answered your questions. You change the subject.

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/416 "2024-02-19T02:17:38Z")

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Im losing interest in this conversation 🙂 I might be back later

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/417 "2024-02-19T02:18:30Z")

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Thats not going to stop anytime soon… We both know that from experience. Something he should try to acquire…

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**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/418 "2024-02-19T02:20:56Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> I posit that warp disruption was introduced because the developers at the time and their friends were the best at the game and were tired of people who never even stood a chance warping off.

Since it’s been a mechanic since beta, there’s no “added” or “best” because it predates the game LAUNCHING.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/419 "2024-02-19T02:22:04Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> I might be back later

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/0/f/80f81d2f6d6acf94569207f4910d1558a736407a.webp)

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/420 "2024-02-19T02:23:12Z")

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He’s already replying! If I can type faster than him, then it’s a chatbot. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/421 "2024-02-19T02:24:49Z")

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> it’s been a mechanic since beta … it predates the game LAUNCHING

Not sure that makes it good.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/422 "2024-02-19T02:25:40Z")

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How do you plan on making non-consensual PvP possible when you only have 10 seconds to kill someone before he warps off to safety?

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/423 "2024-02-19T02:26:41Z")

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Thats what his poor bot program does not want.

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/424 "2024-02-19T02:27:21Z")

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I don’t understand the question. But lots of PVP can happen in 10 seconds 🙂

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