# CCP Totally Failed it's Hsec players

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 30, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970 "2024-01-30T17:58:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/445 "2024-02-19T03:00:21Z")

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Dear Xxxxxx.

Your chatbot has been overloaded but a very good try! It certainly was entertaining and informational as was in determining chatbots capabilities in general.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/446 "2024-02-19T14:42:14Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> I posit that warp disruption was introduced because the developers at the time and their friends were the best at the game and were tired of people who never even stood a chance warping off.

Fact is, in the case of many barges and haulers they can be blapped before they ever even align, let alone warp off.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/447 "2024-02-19T14:54:18Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> You are wrong. You are wrong…

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/0/508bab8a461caff2752d85498efd5129995d66ca.gif)

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**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/448 "2024-02-19T16:40:14Z")

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CCP seems to constantly find new ways to fail its highsec players all at the whims of its major null block players. All the real world money is in null since those are a big spenders they will listen to them more.

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**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/449 "2024-02-19T22:40:44Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> When you combine unforgiving death and easy perma stunning you have gone too far

It’s seriously range limited and doesn’t stun you, just prevent exiting without doing the work to win, break lock, break range control, or at least kill the tackle.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/450 "2024-02-19T23:06:14Z")

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> [@James\_Baboli](#):
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> without doing the work to win

Well he is clearly **Gen Z** , has an undeserved **sense of entitlement** , poor work ethic with a **lack of motivation** if tasks requires effort, requires **participation trophies** , believes he **deserves rewards immediately** , unable to take **critisism** …

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/451 "2024-02-19T23:15:39Z")

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All of those are true, except participation trophies, which were invented by Gen X.

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**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/452 "2024-02-20T04:36:56Z")

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It’s “bloc”

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**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/453 "2024-02-20T04:52:19Z")

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Yup auto correct on phones can be a little annoying lol

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/454 "2024-02-20T08:54:55Z")

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That’s how duels should work .

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Rose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_rose/32/408778_2.png) [@Mina\_Rose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Rose)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/455 "2024-02-20T10:40:05Z")

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OP did the equivalent of walking out on the highway and then complains that the cars didn’t stop for them. Here’s a pro tip, bud:

1. Use paragraphs and correct punctuation when you want to say something.
2. Don’t walk on highways.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/456 "2024-02-21T02:38:12Z")

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![snowflake](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/d/4/ad446878b54d7222ae94095582b33e63ff923b8d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/457 "2024-02-21T20:42:08Z")

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Is that coach subway after a gank

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/459 "2024-02-21T23:31:19Z")

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> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> . You can buy skill extractors to sell, but you can get ganked the minute you try and move them. There is no protection for items you purchase with real dollars.

You don’t need to move them, you redeem them where you want to sell or use them. The people who try to move them are doing so out of neglect.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/461 "2024-02-21T23:39:22Z")

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How would an “extortion corp” (whatever that is) prevent you from “right click → inject SP” remotely no matter where you are in the universe?

There is quite literally never ever a reason to move skill injectors.

I presume it’s the same for extraction.

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/462 "2024-02-21T23:40:56Z")

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You trusting someone else is not CCP’s fault. This game is advertised as having betrayal, destruction, wars, and all sorts of other nefarious acts. High sec is not immune from this.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/464 "2024-02-21T23:42:38Z")

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> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> As I will no longer give real money to CCP, as soon as my Omega expires, I’m done with this “game”.

This right here is how you _know_ that someone’s either lying or an idiot.

Would you keep eating a rotten potato while saying that as soon as you finish your dinner, you’re done with the restaurant? Would you keep wearing a pair of shoes that hurt and disfigure your feet while saying that as soon as they’re worn out, you’re done with that footwear brand?

So which is it? Are you so invested into your sunk cost fallacy that you simply can’t let go, or are you an addict trying to delude yourself into thinking that you can quit any time you want to, and just choose not to?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/466 "2024-02-21T23:47:51Z")

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> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> You don’t know what an extortion corp is. Yeah right.

You’re right: I can’t think of anyone dumb enough to have skill _extractors_ extorted from them. But maybe I’m just so very dumb that I would not be smart enough to fall for such a thing.

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> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> There is no protection for items you purchase with real dollars.

You do know that is how every live service game works, right? You don’t actually own anything in the game. It’s not unique to Eve. When the servers are unplugged, say goodbye to all your cosmetics, transmogs, and gearscore. You can’t go to the government and ask for your protection of items you purchased with real dollars.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/467 "2024-02-21T23:48:32Z")

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> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> I was trying to make the best of it.

You’re trying “to make the best of it” by doing something that brings you negative enjoyment?

> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> And to use your restaurant analogy, would you just stop going to a disappointing restaurant after you purchased your meals in advance and can’t get a refund? Get a clue.

We’re not talking about whether or not you’d stop going to a restaurant, but about whether or not you’d finish eating a meal that’s literally making you sick.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/470 "2024-02-21T23:52:47Z")

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> [@Cerius\_Jevek](#):
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> You have no right to judge.

Actually, yeah, I do.

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