# CCP Totally Failed it's Hsec players

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 30, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970 "2024-01-30T17:58:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/766 "2024-03-11T22:07:46Z")

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Woah, let’s not discuss moderation here.

> [@Shadmor\_Fatbutt](#):
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> I’ve already replied, sometimes with equally adversarial language

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/767 "2024-03-11T22:12:02Z")

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Hmmhmmm…

> [Shadmor Fatbutt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadmor_Fatbutt): Okay Mary, maybe this game isn’t for you if you are so tired of opinions other than yours. I hear there is a whole mom’s dusty basement to explore outside of your computer screen…
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> Come back if you want to respectfully engage. If you don’t know what respect is, go ask your mom - you won’t find it on these forums.

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**Author:** ![Shadmor\_Fatbutt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadmor_fatbutt/32/413636_2.png) [@Shadmor\_Fatbutt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadmor_Fatbutt)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/768 "2024-03-11T22:13:12Z")

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Those comments may be found and judged on their own merits.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/770 "2024-03-11T22:13:48Z")

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Let’s just all agree to be friends, miners and gankers together forever.

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**Author:** ![Shadmor\_Fatbutt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadmor_fatbutt/32/413636_2.png) [@Shadmor\_Fatbutt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadmor_Fatbutt)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/771 "2024-03-11T22:14:10Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> You can say pretty much whatever you want when you’re the recipient of PvP aggression in-game, without any consequence. Threats, racism, sexism, are all allowed. This has been consistently documented for many years now.

Did I make a comment here that qualified as any of the above? I am here discussing a problem with harassment by gamers against gamers. Some of those gamers are here in the forums continuing to harass rather than defend their position. They may choose at any time to cease harassment and play the game without harassing other players, I am not stopping them.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/772 "2024-03-11T22:14:43Z")

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I don’t know and don’t care. I’m just saying that what you quoted is factually incorrect.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/773 "2024-03-11T22:16:00Z")

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I overheard Shadmor in local recently, and he used some strong language that I can’t quote here without violating the rules he listed above.

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/774 "2024-03-11T22:17:14Z")

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What are we actually doing here?  
What are we actually trying to achieve here?  
How long do we keep this up?  
What is the meaning of life?  
Is it approriate to bring my mother to this?  
When was my Venture cleaned last time?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/775 "2024-03-11T22:17:49Z")

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The fact that CCP conducts enforcement against the discussion/quoting of conduct that breaks written rules but not against the breaking of the rules itself is very telling of their administrative angle and intentions.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/776 "2024-03-11T22:21:57Z")

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I think CCP is doing a GREAT job, the ISD are the finest in the world, and I had NO PART in this conversation.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/777 "2024-03-11T22:25:21Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> he used some strong language

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/0/1/b013911375a180831654402693675750f103ab8f.gif)

> [@Mary\_Forcades](#):
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> What is the meaning of life?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/778 "2024-03-11T22:26:53Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I think CCP is doing a GREAT job, the ISD are the finest in the world, and I had NO PART in this conversation.

That’s only because you’re like one PA board meeting away from having your very essence scrubbed out of this game’s fabric, past, present, and future. Like one of those people who fell out of favor with Stalin and were edited out of official government photos:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/5/2/6520b29c31920d56791f19d28e53be1bf4afaae1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/779 "2024-03-11T22:28:56Z")

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Stalin had Photoshop back then?

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/780 "2024-03-11T22:31:52Z")

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I’m legitimately wondering what number of a post related to high-sov ganking this is… Must surpass thousand probably even tens of thousands.

@Shadmor_Fatbutt you really don’t realize how pointless all of this is do you?

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/781 "2024-03-11T22:40:03Z")

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You know what. Just for the sake of it now when we have your in-game name i’m going to ask the nearest locator agent where you’re flying and coming to gank you.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/782 "2024-03-11T22:40:44Z")

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He’s in Yria and Oisio and Kulelen and thereabouts.

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/783 "2024-03-11T22:46:41Z")

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He _was_ lol.

I saw the “Shadmor Fatbutt is writing…” down below which means he probably saw the message and has now fled the region because CCP has ruined high-sov pvp or docked up hanging around with the local station workers. Who knows.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/784 "2024-03-11T22:50:53Z")

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You realize it’s just a false-flag forum ship-toasting alt, right?

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/785 "2024-03-11T22:51:48Z")

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tbh i don’t know if i know anything anymore lol

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**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/786 "2024-03-11T22:56:27Z")

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I think the magic of EVE is that sometimes you can force the player to play the way you want.

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