# CCP Totally Failed it's Hsec players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 30, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970 "2024-01-30T17:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1013 "2024-04-12T21:12:12Z")
I never been to lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Garet\_Jackyard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garet_jackyard/32/417679_2.png) [@Garet\_Jackyard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garet_Jackyard)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1014 "2024-04-12T21:12:49Z")
HAHAHAHAHA ! So, what is keeping you in HIsec? Illogical. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1016 "2024-04-12T21:56:58Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > **F1 monkey** kills don’t count You do realise that most gankers are F1 monkeys. Hit that Retriever, the FC says so… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1017 "2024-04-12T22:00:21Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/d/3/2d3850030f0a5dc5293f1d480be032d12f682cbb.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1018 "2024-04-12T22:13:24Z")
Shh…don’t give away trade secrets. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1019 "2024-04-12T22:18:05Z")
> [@Garet\_Jackyard](#): > > HAHAHAHAHA ! Have you undocked since losing that Tayra 3 years ago ? ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1020 "2024-04-13T09:16:17Z")
They’ll keep arguing until the thread gets closed, or until you or a Mod gets bored. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1021 "2024-04-13T11:04:48Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > They’ll keep arguing ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/e/50e1e7805719e5836b0059a6d821e4422e55fe74.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1022 "2024-04-13T12:45:07Z")
> [@Notjedi](#): > > The cost of 5-9 destroyers vs the cost of a miner they win + the loot they make off with. Cost of destroyers: 100 million isk Value of your mining crystals: 300,000 isk ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1023 "2024-04-14T05:34:40Z")
> [@Garet\_Jackyard](#): > > One of many reasons why that game is dead. Please provide a citation to the source material that led to that conclusion. I would love to read it myself. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1024 "2024-04-15T10:56:18Z")
Behold, the instant gratification focused demographic in its native habitat, to whom filaments and skill injectors are like cheese and crackers. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1025 "2024-04-15T11:40:50Z")
Calm down grandpa ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1026 "2024-04-15T12:32:57Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > instant gratification ![playtime](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/6/6/a662ae83c2dd8969787190dd6e495f4ed932098d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1027 "2024-04-15T12:35:36Z")
Mine is 10k. The account before this one is also 10k. As is the one before that. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1028 "2024-04-15T13:01:32Z")
You need to get out more, make friends, talk to girls, touch some grass. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/0/c/d0c6840362e9a1f73ade18f0c1656a7ab9408d08.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1029 "2024-04-15T13:31:55Z")
Lets not go to extremes. In reality most of those hours are just the launcher sitting there minting dodgecoin for CCP. Those who know how that number works know it is meaningless, those who do not know how it works, seem to think it holds value. ---
**Author:** ![Tarryn\_Nightstorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarryn_nightstorm/32/382514_2.png) [@Tarryn\_Nightstorm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarryn_Nightstorm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1030 "2024-04-15T18:35:43Z")
What the Hell are you crying about, O/P? You’ve already got what your ilk has always wanted: CCP has all-but-explicitly turned off pretty much all other forms of highsec PvP/emergent game-play --most explicitly and notably small-corp/solo wardecs, and pre-2013-style aggro-baiting (I miss pre-2012 ninja salvaging, dammit ☹ ) – because you shitters (_and_ your nullsec RMT-overlords + their openly corrupt pet dev’s, mustn’t forget those) wouldn’t stop crying for the better part of 20 ■■■■■■■ years, and well…here we are. _Because of you_, there’s nothing PvP-orientated left do do in hisec _but_ ganking that isn’t a royal pain in the arse to try and get/set up, aside from blowing up MTUs or whatever (seriously OK, those have waaaaaay too damned much HP 😕 ). If, after mining barge buffs 10 - 12 years ago that increased some of their EHP _to damned near battleship levels,_ you’re still getting ganked, then it’s 100% because you are a fool who refuses to learn from your setbacks/losses. And what I’ve seen of you and/or your corp. on zkill tells me that yes, you are a fool. You got what you wanted –_Now shut up and enjoy it_ like you’re supposed to. And if not, then feel free to send all your ISK to this character, and contract to the same all your stuff in the NPC station in the 0.1/+ security system of your choice. ■■■■■■■ carebear. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1031 "2024-04-15T19:13:56Z")
> [@Tarryn\_Nightstorm](#): > > ■■■■■■■ carebear. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/5/6/a5646ee62601ee07e259081309ddb8696b58fbf6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Tarryn\_Nightstorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarryn_nightstorm/32/382514_2.png) [@Tarryn\_Nightstorm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarryn_Nightstorm)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1032 "2024-04-16T02:38:27Z")
> [@](#): > > loosing the retriever they just pad $10 from the eve store. They sell ships in the cash-shop now? Aside from the fact that they don’t and never have, I mean. (Because the instant that happens is when EVE really _will_ die, and 100% deservedly so. Even post-Seagull CCP isn’t that stupid. I think/hope/pray.) It’s losing, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1033 "2024-04-16T03:53:00Z")
> [@Tarryn\_Nightstorm](#): > > Aside from the fact that they don’t and never have, I mean. Oh really? > [@PROSPECTOR PACK "READY TO FLY RETRIEVER"](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/prospector-pack-ready-to-fly-retriever/352705): > > Found a picture of the “Fitting” for the “READY TO FLY RETRIEVER” on Reddit. No rigs, no DC. Good fit all in all. 100 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970.md?page=49) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970.md?page=51)