# CCP Totally Failed it's Hsec players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 30, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970 "2024-01-30T17:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Tarryn\_Nightstorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarryn_nightstorm/32/382514_2.png) [@Tarryn\_Nightstorm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarryn_Nightstorm)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1096 "2024-04-20T01:00:09Z")
> [@PROSPECTOR PACK "READY TO FLY RETRIEVER"](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/prospector-pack-ready-to-fly-retriever/352705/1): > > Found a picture of the “Fitting” for the “READY TO FLY RETRIEVER” on Reddit. [[GylmGRl\_LI]](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/6/e/26ee2cf0e5496295a6bc8fc702923e5819ee8eb4.jpeg) No rigs, no DC. Good fit all in all. 100 If this existed, then it doesn’t anymore, because I’m not seeing anything remotely like a ship or a module in the cash-shop, in game right now as we speak. I certainly am glad I missed it, if so. The thread you linked to is around 2 years old --I should think/hope that CCP learned from (hopefully-)backlash not to do that since, as I’ve been more-or-less fully “back” in EVE the last year and a half or so. And I’ve never seen ships/mods in that ■■■■■■■ cancerous pustule of a cash-shop, and I had never seen any before I “semi-retired”, either. In any case, that’s just more proof of what I said about the bar and its potential and/or eventual height. It would seem that I haven’t missed much. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1097 "2024-04-20T06:07:04Z")
> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > > > Can’t defend against an alpha strike > > Resistance is futile 🐙 > > (git gud noob!) Certainly, there are ways to defend against an alpha strike, but they often involve tedious and prolonged methods. In reality, there exist strategies to counter every move gankers make. The real question is why these countermeasures aren’t more widely adopted. One reason is the prevalence of laziness among those who prefer to rely on others and complain on forums. Another factor is that gankers dictate the pace of gameplay, forcing opponents into a reactive stance. Effective crime-fighting requires proactive measures; otherwise, gankers will devise even more tedious tactics. In my opinion, the alterations made to ganking mechanics have harmed anti-ganking efforts as much as they have hindered ganking itself. Players require tools to combat gankers that inject excitement into the process. Upon closer examination, many victims of high-security crime engage in solo activities, rendering them vulnerable and easy targets for small groups of assailants. It’s a shame for solo players just trying to chill in high sec but these are the realities of eve right now. And if your a group you need to learn the dangers of high sec and how to count to them ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1098 "2024-04-20T06:13:04Z")
Those poor helpless antisocial players… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1099 "2024-04-20T06:31:05Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > crime-fighting requires proactive measures How do you proactively crime-fight a crime that has already been commited? 🤔 > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > the prevalence of laziness Why bother, why not gank these lazy solo players instead? C’mon girly…You know you want to. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1100 "2024-04-20T07:32:40Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Players require tools to combat gankers Newly issued NEPF (New Eden People’s Front) sidearm to combat suicide ganking ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/9/509a8568be7c3607a7da8f8b867cc924507ef24d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1101 "2024-04-20T09:00:44Z")
Ok I laughed out loud at that ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1102 "2024-04-20T11:04:50Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > The real question is why these countermeasures aren’t more widely adopted. One reason is the prevalence of laziness among those who prefer to rely on others and complain on forums. Since this reason alone covers 93.42456% of all cases (proven by gallente blaster-tech scientists™), we can just stop here. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1103 "2024-04-24T03:23:57Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > but they often involve tedious and prolonged methods. You know what else is prolonged and tedious? Setting up a gank. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1104 "2024-04-25T00:02:45Z")
Frostpacker believes that the most stubborn, carebear you may ever meet and optimistic anarchist will save us all!!! / who knows which fantastic pilot we’re referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1105 "2024-04-25T00:41:16Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > who knows which fantastic pilot we’re referring to ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/f/55f6898c79193a0f44892d1fc0310361a3a42098.gif) The most stubborn ,most definately @Iceacid_Frostpacker The most anarchistic, @Githany_Red > [@Reluctance for Logi](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/reluctance-for-logi/446386/47): > > my logi group giggled quietly to ourselves ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1106 "2024-04-25T00:58:42Z")
Listen up Fang. Frosty doesn’t even come close. It shows how self centred you had become to think such. You need to search on forum members profiles. In game BIO Find me the name and frosty will reward for your efforts! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1107 "2024-04-25T01:17:14Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/1/c91cf95b7ac62cfbc544432522da780b9e45392b.gif) The moon is my sun, the night is my day, Blood is my life, and you are my prey. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1108 "2024-04-25T01:28:24Z")
I am not who you you want me to be right now. Back off Fang /@Fang. ![IMG_5046](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/c/95c3bfabc8d9a43837565a9d407986719da043b8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1109 "2024-04-25T01:44:31Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/2/46257e75080dd7e34eb82d7f86d2afb885c93caa.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1110 "2024-04-25T01:58:26Z")
I’m starting to think that you had given up fang? It was Mike and the reward will go towards the magic school bus as soon as I log in. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1112 "2024-04-25T09:44:49Z")
> [@Distaine](#): > > Bye now. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/c/6/ac6f57db6dc954f17bd26307bb297f249364bca6.png) **F1 Monkey** of the month ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/5/6/a5646ee62601ee07e259081309ddb8696b58fbf6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Shiny\_Garemoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shiny_garemoko/32/440221_2.png) [@Shiny\_Garemoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shiny_Garemoko)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1113 "2024-04-26T01:02:23Z")
Comes back to the issue of having zero consequences for crime since people have multiple accounts. Man goes on a psycho killing spree, loses security status, then dumps his brain into a clone with a different face and name and goes back to making money to fund his psycho behavior in the alternate clone body. Definitely screws with the idea of immersion. There is no solution. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1114 "2024-04-26T02:14:27Z")
> [@Shiny\_Garemoko](#): > > zero consequences for crime since people have multiple accounts. Seeing as you have no zkillboard history you talking about yourself , right? > [@Shiny\_Garemoko](#): > > making money to fund his **psycho behavior** in the alternate clone body ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/2/992d7414afbe80fe97c16018c525ecac89390e82.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1115 "2024-04-26T02:15:17Z")
> [@Shiny\_Garemoko](#): > > Definitely screws with the idea of immersion. Not a fan of science fiction? ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970/1116 "2024-04-26T02:24:23Z")
Sounds a little bit unethical to build security standing to 5.0 then blow it all away on a couple highsec ganks don’t you agree? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970.md?page=53) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-totally-failed-its-hsec-players/437970.md?page=55)