# CCP, Why are we Still Waiting for this? You Announced it at Fanfest 4 years ago! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 14, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627 "2018-06-14T06:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/21 "2018-06-14T20:48:28Z")
I fondly remember this period as “peak Eve”, where player numbers topped 50k+, CCP openly boasted in the media about increasing subs year after year, WiS was on the horizon with in-station bars and shops, there was footage of ships flying WITHIN a planet’s atmosphere, and there were plans for players to conquer other people’s planetary colonies via Dust. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal\_Montage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternal_montage/32/425678_2.png) [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/22 "2018-06-14T21:07:22Z")
I miss the eve future vision of 4 years ago. The game has certainly improved since then… but at that time, I believed it would not only improve but evolve. Sometimes I feel like we’re in some shitty alternate universe, and there’s a better universe out there where Eve, dust, valkyrie, and walking in stations were all seemlessly interwoven and everyone is reading “The Berenstein Bears” ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/23 "2018-06-14T21:42:45Z")
You’re right Eternal Montage, we were soooo enthralled when we watched all those “Future of Eve” videos, really exciting stuff, and now it’s just ; “Oh No ANOTHER SPace Mission; this time called Abyssal, nothing of interest for me, I’ve got MUCH better ways to make ISK” I’ll give CCP credit, they’ve given us a nicely balanced, relatively bug-free game, and the Star Citizen fiasco makes me value EVE even more, **_but where’s the REAL INNOVATION???_** ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/24 "2018-06-14T21:56:08Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > Yes, I’d like to know where have all the wonderful ideas gone. All those wonderful ideas went with Torfi Frans Olafsson who recently left CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/25 "2018-06-15T01:13:25Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I remember MANY years ago at fanfest that we were told we would be able to control populations on planets? You do. They’re just so far beneath you as a capsuleer that you don’t even notice them. It’s like humans and bacteria. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/26 "2018-06-15T01:31:21Z")
To be honest I really want to support CCP more financially, but they need to give us more incentive to throw money at them, DUST 514 Becoming Dust in May14 was a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tecros_shtemerk/32/194847_2.png) [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tecros_Shtemerk)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/27 "2018-06-15T04:32:03Z")
[quote=“Peter\_Raptor, post:26, topic:82627”] To be honest I really want to support CCP more financially, but they need to give us more incentive to throw money at them [/quote] 👍 me2, money is not issue, content is ---
**Author:** ![Jaquline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaquline/32/78295_2.png) [@Jaquline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaquline)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/28 "2018-06-15T06:13:14Z")
Ahm… Project Nova Beta testing this year. (DUST PC) ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/29 "2018-06-15T06:39:36Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > but where’s the REAL INNOVATION??? I watched Cyberpunk 2077 demo impressions by Angry Joe and other game shows and I think that is where innovation is. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/30 "2018-06-15T10:26:33Z")
Imagine where we could have been 4 years on, if they just kept developing DUST fro PC from beginning 😑 ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/31 "2018-06-15T10:36:30Z")
You need to not take ‘shown at fanfest’ as being ‘promised’. Shown at Fanfest just means it’s an idea they are taking seriously. Dust on the PC may have never even got the adoption it did on the PS3, because of the market being so saturated. So we can play ‘what if’s’ till the heat death of the universe. It won’t change what did or didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/32 "2018-06-15T10:44:39Z")
We can only hope we won’t be getting endless Abyssal-like Expansions, and have something Actually Exciting to look forward to. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/33 "2018-06-15T10:48:25Z")
Personally I think the Abyss is actually a really good expansion in principle. A few of the details may have had issues, but all that is needed is a willingness by CCP to iterate on those details properly. I’ll point at Resource Wars as a perfect example of that. A lot of people enjoyed the content and had fun running them with other people, but the lack of rewards (in fact negative rewards in most cases) turned people off because they are already paying for the game in most cases, they want to get at least in game rewards for that. The Abyss update appears for the most part similar, I’m sure we can all name personal points that we disagree with it over, but the idea of ‘Go explore some partly RNG generated sites with unpredictable enemies’ is a good one. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/34 "2018-06-15T11:08:43Z")
I’ve played EVE on and off since 2010, I agree EVE has plenty to do in terms of spaceship flying, and I’ve done most things it has to offer, but I’d like the feeling of Real Excitement back that I got at the 2014 Fanfest, EVA, FPS, then get into you Spaceship and Explore etc etc Now I’m an Alpha, I still make plenty for Plex, and I actually collect Plex and don’t cash into Omega, because I’m waiting, Still waiting for the Spark that’ll make me cash in all those Plex, and, shock horror, Actually even open my wallet haha ---
**Author:** ![Naxirian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naxirian/32/510269_2.png) [@Naxirian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naxirian)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/35 "2018-06-15T11:19:01Z")
They also shut down development for Valkyrie. The game was a massive failure and had/still has very few players. We’re talking \<200 per day. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/36 "2018-06-15T11:32:28Z")
Yeah makes me wonder what that perfect formula is to “Make Eve Great Again” . ---
**Author:** ![LulKlz\_Duster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulklz_duster/32/129692_2.png) [@LulKlz\_Duster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LulKlz_Duster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/37 "2018-06-15T14:47:43Z")
CCP, would be nice if you gave us some news on Project Nova, J.S. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/38 "2018-06-15T14:51:48Z")
Its the greatest game in their current repertoir. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/39 "2018-06-15T15:14:30Z")
Well as others have mentioned, dust is dead, valkyrie is dead, so seeing as the only game on the list that is still alive is EVE, you already have what they promised 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627/40 "2018-06-16T12:31:54Z")
Why can’t DUST be Resuscitated for PC? Was such a great idea, you’d have to do some planetside combat to protect your PI Installations. Would’ve been great [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-why-are-we-still-waiting-for-this-you-announced-it-at-fanfest-4-years-ago/82627.md?page=3)