# CCP you absolutely OBLITERATED deep space transports with this April 2020 update **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 15, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975 "2020-04-15T16:52:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/41 "2020-04-16T21:25:33Z")
if you dont autopilot this change doesnt affect you. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/42 "2020-04-16T22:21:35Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > DST has no cloak Fake News ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/2/4225ef4e4638d84e3ce0447d3a9edbadf45daa46.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![l1lll11l1ll1l1ll1l](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@l1lll11l1ll1l1ll1l](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/l1lll11l1ll1l1ll1l)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/43 "2020-04-18T18:53:03Z")
2 explosive hardners 2 EM hardners a kin and therm hardner in the low overheated used to get you 300k ehp now overheated its 100k. Is that what you were asking? ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/44 "2020-04-18T21:27:58Z")
Thank you! I really had no idea. ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/45 "2020-04-20T13:12:55Z")
Do you people even undock? If u pulse mwd and cloak. An insta lock will get u when your sig baloons. You cannot cloak while being targeted. If you do cloak your speed is cut -75%. Meaning they will eventually find you. An overheated AB will at least get you back to the gate. Any respectable gatecamp will have a HIC, instalock alpha (tornado), and a duel web and neuts. Your screwed… I run a med cap battery, ancil shield boosters, reg shield booster, invul field, micro jump, LSE. And 1 stab, agility mods in the lows. Rigs are warp acceleration. Because I want to land on grid and outrun any BC or larger ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/46 "2020-04-20T13:15:25Z")
I ditched the AB due to grid restrictions. Anytime ive been tackled my cap gets insta neuted anyways so prop mods are pointless. A mjd with 1 stab and 2 base points with cap battery will work. I know what im doing ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/47 "2020-04-20T13:20:10Z")
The fact that the mwd+cloak trick has been suggested to literally everyone since its discovery and has, not once, been proven not to work reliably enough, makes your words sound more like an opinion than actual experience. How many times have you actually tried it? ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/48 "2020-04-20T13:25:47Z")
Quite a few in a blockade runner. That has plenty of agility. When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? It literally moves 1000 max distance before it comes to a halt. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/49 "2020-04-20T13:28:42Z")
Haven’t done it in ages, but often in the past. I can fly amarrian t2 haulers. You make it sound like the mwd+cloak trick is useless, which clearly isn’t the case. And yeah, of course it does move, but that doesn’t mean you’re not going to be getting away. That also wasn’t your initial argument. Your initial argument was that the sigbloom basically renders mwd+cloak useless, which isn’t the case. It seems like you’re making “perfect” the enemy of “good”. ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/50 "2020-04-20T14:01:40Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Quite a few in a blockade runner. That has plenty of agility. When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? It literally moves 1000 max distance before it comes to a halt. The fact that you are even trying to state you have done the MWD cloak trick in a blockade runner implies you don’t know how it works. There is no need for this “trick” in a BR as they are already covert. Yea having spent lots of time in WH space my fleet of DST’s got used heavily. I’ve managed the MWD cloak trick many times to safely travel. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/51 "2020-04-20T18:18:52Z")
> [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > How many times have you actually tried it? I used the trick all the time before I could fly a blockade runner and can’t remember I was caught once. With a blockade runner you do not need the trick at all. In HS and LS they will not catch you, in null you are dead if there is a bubbler on the gate. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/52 "2020-04-20T18:45:50Z")
I always confuse DSTs and BRs. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Oldman\_Keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oldman_keith/32/182268_2.png) [@Oldman\_Keith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oldman_Keith)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/53 "2020-04-21T00:07:35Z")
Are you really sure Sordeo\_Regius is wrong? As CCP nerfs cheap cyno ships, mining, resistances and any thing else the price of everything else but PLEX is going up in price. Now you have spend more real money on PLEX to get the same bang for the buck. This is a CCP money grab. Everyone is to busy blaming the developers and do not understand the developers are just doing what they are told by the pencil pushers. They will keep doing it until EVE becomes more like a job than a game and everyone moves on to something else that is more fun to play. ---
**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/54 "2020-04-21T02:42:24Z")
You cant be targeted if you are cloaked. ---
**Author:** ![Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aphrodite_sexy/32/420261_2.png) [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/55 "2020-04-21T03:04:14Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > Kool-Aid. Quafe ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/56 "2020-04-21T07:18:43Z")
Sure. What this is, is farmers quitting and more bots being banned. PLEX dropping is a natural consequence of that. You could say that CCP’s main goal was for more PLEX being bought, but that’s unlikely. Economics says no. When PLEX aren’t worth being bought, they’re not worth being bought and they would have had better ways of achieving it without changing fundamentals of the game. Oldman, are you a conspiracy theorist? It sounds like you’re a conspiracy theorist, so please take the time and allow me to educate you on this matter. For now, everything points at this simply being the natural progression from doing what CCP actually wants, which is kicking out farmers and returning the game into a better state. If they wanted PLEX to drop in price, they could have gone other routes as well. Their direction is pretty clear for everyone who isn’t looking at this from a narrow minded position. - Scarcity promotes conflict - Conflict promotes content and actual activity - Wealth causes stagnation - Farmers add nothing to the game, only to CCP’s wallet - PvP events since last october, which is a first in over ten years - Changes promoting PvP and demoting PvE and farming CCP also slowed out the economy. Their excuse, bots, is a lie they tell people who would complain about their actual goal, making them quit faster. They had to slow down the economy to match it with the scarcity and increased amounts of destruction, which removes even more minerals. Their actual goal is not lowering the price of plex. Assuming that this is what they want and they do all those things just for that is mind bogglingly narrow minded and ignoring everything else that happens. No. The goal is getting rid of farmers and promoting PvP activities again, as it should be. It is really interesting to see how cognitively challenged people manage to blame a company of attemping to make money. On top of that, these cognitively challenged people are completely ignoring that the company has spent the last several years milking a huge amount of _■■■■■■■ morons_ (nullseccers, null miners and farmers in general) out of their money and _now_, that the company is done with it and wants to get rid of them again, _now_ they claim the company is doing it all for the money. editted typos ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/57 "2020-04-21T08:48:34Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Quite a few in a blockade runner. That has plenty of agility. When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? It literally moves 1000 max distance before it comes to a halt. LOL, you are doing it **SO** wrong! I’m sure if you google it you’ll be able to work out how to do this ‘trick’ correctly. PS, with a blockade runner you just cloak & warp, it is that simple… with a DST it’s a _little_ more complicated. Good luck on your search! Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/58 "2020-04-21T09:04:21Z")
I dunno, i carry billions of isk in mine at times so dont usually autpilot… and when i do it’s not through balle, niarja or sivala… and jita… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/59 "2020-04-21T09:45:07Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Imagine complaining about a ship that still has hundreds of thousands of ehp still and can use cloak trick to be almost unkillable, oh no it doesnt have 99% resistance in every slot anymore what will you do!?!?!? It also can fit mjd and even do cloak + mjd trick 😛 ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/60 "2020-04-21T09:54:43Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > A DST has about 50k ish. Fix your skills and fits. My mastodon has 100K ehp cold. > [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Do you people even undock? If u pulse mwd and cloak. Do _YOU_ even undock? First activate cloak THEN mwd … > [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Quite a few in a blockade runner There is no point in doing cloak + mwd in blockade runner… simply cloak with covert ops cloak. > [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? It literally moves 1000 max distance before it comes to a halt. Sounds like you got no clue how it works or how to do it… I do it pretty much everyday, including today. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975.md?page=4)