# CCP you absolutely OBLITERATED deep space transports with this April 2020 update **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 15, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975 "2020-04-15T16:52:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/61 "2020-04-21T10:01:03Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Quite a few in a blockade runner. That has plenty of agility. When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? It literally moves 1000 max distance before it comes to a halt. Hint: You are doing it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/62 "2020-04-21T10:13:58Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > If you do cloak your speed is cut -75%. Meaning they will eventually find you. An overheated AB will at least get you back to the gate. > [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? It literally moves 1000 max distance before it comes to a halt. It seems you dont quite understand what MWD & Cloak trick is for. It is not to move in cloak but to warp away in 10 sec no matter your align time while you are cloaked during that 10 sec align time (MWD cycle). ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/63 "2020-04-21T12:32:10Z")
No wonder why I avoid the forum’s. You dont even know what ships do what. A blockade runner can warp cloaked. A DST cannot. Active a MWD then cloak, not the other way around, your ship cloaks. You lose 75% velocity. Before the mwd cycle finishes your dst never even got to full speed. Literally moved it 1000 max. And now its cloaked… so everone burns to your location to uncloak you. Now, if they dont find you, you wait it out. If you align then uncloak. You still have to get to speed before warp. If you uncloak, then mwd, then warp they will still tackle since your sig is battleship size. If you think you can just mjd. That aint going to happen. Theyre most likely in scram range. Thus me asking if you even undock ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/64 "2020-04-21T12:35:15Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > You dont even know what ships do what. A blockade runner can warp cloaked. The why did you claim above to use MWD/Cloak trick with a Blockade Runner? > [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > How many times have you actually tried it? > [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Quite a few in a blockade runner. That has plenty of agility. When is the last time you cloak+mwd in a DST? That is a pretty dumb use of MWD/Cloak trick and suggests a significant lack of knowledge of mechanics and/or experience. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/65 "2020-04-21T12:55:07Z")
Not trying to defend him, but can’t he just confused DSTs with BRs? I never remember which is which and I can fly both. When I’m subbed, at least. I’m not really following this anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Yalezorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yalezorn/32/195555_2.png) [@Yalezorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yalezorn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/66 "2020-04-21T14:19:02Z")
You can’t cloak if someone is targeting you. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/67 "2020-04-21T14:41:11Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > A blockade runner can warp cloaked. A DST cannot. Active a MWD then cloak, not the other way around, your ship cloaks. You lose 75% velocity. Before the mwd cycle finishes your dst never even got to full speed. Literally moved it 1000 max. And now its cloaked… so everone burns to your location to uncloak you. So you’d rather prove your incompetence once again than learn how and why cloak and mwd trick works… Ok. Last try: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/3/7/437fd98d36e9f890ea4f329de0fb1728627a5778.jpeg "Microwarp Cloak Trick - Short Version") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVi1CWcbSUE) > [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > You dont even know what ships do what. No, you. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/68 "2020-04-21T18:16:26Z")
> [@Oldman\_Keith](#): > > As CCP nerfs cheap cyno ships, mining, resistances and any thing else the price of everything else but PLEX is going up in price. Now you have spend more real money on PLEX to get the same bang for the buck. This is a CCP money grab. Everyone is to busy blaming the developers and do not understand the developers are just doing what they are told by the pencil pushers. It is a well known fact that this kind of tactics is a suicide, as very few people will be willing to pay more than they were before inside your client base. Meanwhile, a part of it will go upset and leave. It’s possible to put an “abusive” price on something at the very beginning, if you manage to convince clients with whatever method. However, rising up price afterwards almost always fail. Those “pencil pushers” might only think about the money, yes, but this is actually the reason why your reasonning is strange. People who are interested by money do not risk themself in maneuver that are very well known to mostly backfire without actual financial gain. They might be trying to manipulate the game in a certain purpose, but that’s certainly not “selling more PLEX”. As others already pointed-out in the thread, if this was the goal, they had a tons of much better methods at their disposal. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/69 "2020-04-21T20:45:46Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Active a MWD then cloak, not the other way around, your ship cloaks. You lose 75% velocity. Before the mwd cycle finishes your dst never even got to full speed. Literally moved it 1000 max. And now its cloaked… so everone burns to your location to uncloak you. LOL. You have no idea how Cloak+MWD works. Please do yourself a favour and learn how this stuff works instead of wasting your and everybody else’s time making a fool of yourself: [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak\_trick](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak_trick) ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/70 "2020-04-21T21:04:53Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Active a MWD then cloak, not the other way around, your ship cloaks. As others have pointed out, you are doing it backwards. Maybe that’s why you don’t have much success. ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/71 "2020-04-21T21:30:11Z")
Br br xD ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/72 "2020-04-21T21:46:35Z")
> [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > Scarcity promotes conflict Agree > [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > Conflict promotes content and actual activity agree > [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > Wealth causes stagnation Not necessarily true, if there’s content to spend that wealth. > [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > Farmers add nothing to the game, only to CCP’s wallet Wrong, every activity has its role in the game balance and all are tied up. If the game had no pve activity then what? No industry? no player driven economy? how to buy a ship? where to get isk to buy a ship? the game would turn into a PvP arena? think it would be a shitty game compared with what eve is now (. Even with all the bad stuff we still have in game.) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/73 "2020-04-22T03:21:09Z")
UHAHUAUHAUAUUAHHUAUHAHUAUHHAUUHA S3 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/74 "2020-04-22T05:43:46Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > Any respectable gatecamp will Kill anything… the mwd + cloak trick is about poor gatecamps, for the good ones you have to sacrifice your scout. But that’s theory only, i’ve never undocked. ---
**Author:** ![Draqolas\_Windfury](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/draqolas_windfury/32/427631_2.png) [@Draqolas\_Windfury](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Draqolas_Windfury)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/75 "2020-04-23T01:36:58Z")
Interceptor can point you in 1s. you need 8s to activate mjd? Good luck with mjd ---
**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/76 "2020-04-23T02:02:44Z")
you do know you can MJD while pointed right? ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/77 "2020-04-23T02:07:08Z")
> [@Magalaus\_Shardani](#): > > you do know you can MJD while pointed right? Disruptors yes. Warp scrams no. > [@Draqolas\_Windfury](#): > > Interceptor can point you in 1s. > you need 8s to activate mjd? > > Good luck with mjd It comes down to fits and luck. Given DST’s start at +2 Warp strength, its not hard to get it to 4, so even the best +3 Scrams won’t stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/78 "2020-04-23T07:44:17Z")
> [@z0ra\_Berg](#): > > I always confuse DSTs and BRs Understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/79 "2020-04-23T07:45:19Z")
> [@Oldman\_Keith](#): > > As CCP nerfs cheap cyno ships, mining, resistances and any thing else the price of everything else but PLEX is going up in price. But PLEX isn’t going up in price. Drum roll. ---
**Author:** ![Oldman\_Keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oldman_keith/32/182268_2.png) [@Oldman\_Keith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oldman_Keith)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975/80 "2020-04-23T10:45:23Z")
I will try to put this in simple terms for you. If your ship costs 100 isk today and 100 PLEX costs 100 units of real outside the game money and equals 100 isk. To replace your ship it will cost 100 units of real outside the game money and CCP gets that money. If the price of your ship increases to 200 isk and 100 PLEX decreases in value to 50 isk and still costs 100 units of real outside the game money. To replace your ship it will cost 400 units of real outside the game money and CCP gets that money. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-you-absolutely-obliterated-deep-space-transports-with-this-april-2020-update/232975.md?page=5)