# CCPlease do something about the 1mil sp spammers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 29, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212 "2023-09-29T12:52:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/193 "2024-01-15T13:42:35Z")

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My solution, and it’s worked well for me,

When in jita, I just close the local chat tab.

It’s spammed so much that I wouldn’t be able to hold a conversation in it anyway. And I don’t want to block one spammer just to have 2 more pop up and repeat the ad nauseam.

I don’t have enough programming background to suggest a better idea. But I agree with the OP. It’s a problem.

🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/194 "2024-01-15T14:50:13Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> I accepted the very first suggestion brought up in the thread.

Well…actually no you didn’t. As with all the other ideas it was ’ nice idea…but…’

You somehow turned a handful of spam posts into ‘infinity’…when the reality is that right click and ‘block’ gets rid of the handful of spammers in NPC corps and even in local chat. And it is even less of an issue given that most people don’t even spend any large amount of their time in NPC chat.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/195 "2024-01-15T14:59:21Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> handful of spam posts

LOL! And you call other people out for hyperbole?

Go away.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/197 "2024-01-15T15:09:49Z")

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> [@Lasers](#):
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> Perhaps it’s because

His corp and alliance members do this, why would he want to do something that hurts his friends.

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**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/198 "2024-01-15T18:37:52Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> It is thus clear that all you want to do is whine

Oh come on! Rail J’kar found the solution before anybody else.

> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> Remove the reward for giving out the link.

That’s the only expedient solution to rid the game of those miserable spammers.

And trying to block an endless stream of alts is an exercise in futility.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/199 "2024-01-15T19:06:45Z")

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> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#):
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> hat’s the only expedient solution to rid the game of those miserable spammers.

Sure but realistically that’s never going to happen so it’s not really a solution then is it.

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**Author:** ![Kat\_Mator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kat_mator/32/407752_2.png) [@Kat\_Mator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kat_Mator)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/200 "2024-01-15T19:18:35Z")

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CCP wants to get new players to log in the web site and buy stuff. That’s why they reward spammers and why there are so many. It works, people buy omega and/or Plex when they get the SP.  
It’s also easy to avoid join or make a Corp, leave the starter and career systems.  
Don’t expect CCP to do anything because it’s working as intended.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/201 "2024-01-15T19:36:36Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> And you call other people out for hyperbole?

It _is_ hyperbole. Nothing but. I just did 44 jumps and did not come across a single 1m ISK SP spammer in local. Not one. I never encountered Rail’s…er…what was is…ah yes…INFINITY of spammers…lol.

The handful of spammers who are in NPC chat can **easily** be blocked with two clicks. So where is this major, earth shattering, problem ? Why are there so many ‘think of the poor noobs’ posts from people who were last a noob when pterodactyls were flying ?

It’s yet another of those making a mountain out of a molehill issues that chronic whiners rattle on about under the delusion that they are saving noobs and the game, when really it says more about chronic whiners ( oh…hi Mr Epeen ) than about the game.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/202 "2024-01-15T20:15:19Z")

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> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#):
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> And trying to block an endless stream of alts is an exercise in futility.

So…here’s the horrifying reality. Noob alt of mine in NPC chat just a few minutes ago. In the space of 13 minutes…just 3 lines of 1m ISK SP spam. The horror ! This must be the INFINITY Rail spoke of ! How will my noob possibly cope !! I am now suffering from PTSD and am going to have to call the United Nations to get this practice banned.

Of the 258 people in NPC chat…nobody else was saying anything anyway. So I’ve been distracted from precisely nothing.

 ![NPC_Chat](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/d/e/cdecdbe08b96cc61e82136e4b955747ddfa25a8a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/203 "2024-01-15T20:22:27Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> So…here’s the horrifying reality. Noob alt of mine in NPC chat just a few minutes ago. In the space of 13 minutes…just 3 lines of 1m ISK SP spam. The horror !

It isn’t the apocalypse, true. All one has to do is ignore the chats and set mail contact restrictions.

I didn’t reply to you about the topic ( yes, off-topic, the horror ) I let you know that Rail J’kar isn’t whining, that’s all.  
Her solution is the only sensible one from a player’s point of view.  
From CCP’s side, this is what makes sense:

> [@Kat\_Mator](#):
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> CCP wants to get new players to log in the web site and buy stuff. That’s why they reward spammers and why there are so many. It works, people buy omega and/or Plex when they get the SP

> [@Kat\_Mator](#):
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> Don’t expect CCP to do anything because it’s working as intended.

And, really, it should be the final word on this issue.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/204 "2024-01-15T20:46:06Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> > [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> > I accepted the very first suggestion brought up in the thread.
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> Well…actually no you didn’t. As with all the other ideas it was ’ nice idea…but…’

I said the filters need to be on by default or they’d not have the desired affect. The desired affect being: not having new players #uninstall when they see the wall of spam. That’s pretty obvious.

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> most people don’t even spend any large amount of their time in NPC chat.

NPC chat used to have a thriving community, which is a much better look for a new player than a wall of spam.

> [@Lasers](#):
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> I find it odd that the only member of the CSM to comment publicly on this anywhere as far as I can tell is Brisc Rubal on Reddit

@Mike_Azariah also commented on the issue in another thread.

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> The handful of spammers who are in NPC chat can **easily** be blocked with two clicks.

How would you know? As you said, you don’t spend any time in the rookie corps, because “the first thing you do is make your own corp.”

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> In the space of 13 minutes

Technically, the spam that you’ve posted is in the space of 5 minutes.

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Of the 258 people in NPC chat…nobody else was saying anything anyway. So I’ve been distracted from precisely nothing.

And why do you think that is? I provided a post earlier where it showed the spam killing the conversation. Also, if you’ve got any of those bots blocked, there could be quite a few more spam posts than what you see. So what will a new player see? A wall of yellow.

At this point, I’m kind of tempted to create a goonswarm alt and spam their alliance channel until some null bears take note of why it sucks. When they kick the character, I’ll just make new ones and continue the spam.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/205 "2024-01-15T23:39:28Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> The desired affect being: not having new players #uninstall when they see the wall of spam.

You have presented zero evidence that they do.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/206 "2024-01-15T23:45:24Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> You have presented zero evidence that they do

You have presented zero evidence that you don’t spend all day drunk posting.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/207 "2024-01-15T23:53:04Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> You have presented zero evidence that you don’t spend all day drunk posting.

Hell no…I would not want to take after your example.

Nice try at a diversion, but I repeat…Rail has provided zero evidence that anyone has ever uninstalled due to SP Link spam. He’s made the claim…he needs to provide the evidence. He has none.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/208 "2024-01-16T00:37:40Z")

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I don’t need to.

It’s quite clear how disliked the spam is, you even said it was out of control yourself.

It sounds like you’re just mad that your suggestion of “just block the spammers” isn’t taken as a real solution to the issue.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/209 "2024-01-16T01:31:45Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> It’s quite clear how disliked the spam is,

I agree, It’s terrible.

Amarr and Hek are not too bad. But Jita. Oof. I haven’t been in a rookie chat for quite some time so I can’t comment on it.

I also agree, just blocking them isn’t enough.

What is interesting is it seems that CCP doesn’t care? Or perhaps they can’t make a change to chat without breaking something. Or there is some sort of financial incentive on their part that justifies keeping it alive (as in, brings in sales).

What would really be interesting is to do some sort of study and see if it has a negative impact on new players, type, and extent.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/210 "2024-01-16T01:40:33Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> What is interesting is it seems that CCP doesn’t care? Or perhaps they can’t make a change to chat without breaking something.

CCP made a comment about combining the rookie corps into one a few years back (fanfest 2022 maybe?) If that’s still the plan, they’re probably waiting for that implementation to make changes in relation to the spam.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/211 "2024-01-16T01:40:47Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> I don’t need to.

Oh yes you do. You are the one making a specific claim…"The desired affect being: not having new players #uninstall when they see the wall of spam ". Without any actual evidence, that claim is actually just your own totally un-substantiated opinion…which you are trying to fob off on everyone as fact when it isn’t.

It’s the classic tactic of whiners on the forum. Invent some major ‘problem’, and then invent how this invented problem ‘must’ be affecting all the noobs and we have to all care so much about it.

But…I suspect the noobs are actually doing just fine, and the real problem with Eve is the vocal minority of habitual whiners doing their best to poison the well.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/212 "2024-01-16T01:41:55Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Invent some major ‘problem

It is a problem, I didn’t invent it.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/213 "2024-01-16T01:43:56Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> It is a problem, I didn’t invent it.

You have blown out of all proportion a ‘problem’ that anyone can fix with two clicks.

But you don’t _want_ that to be a fix…because all you want to do is whine.

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