# CCPlease do something about the 1mil sp spammers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 29, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212 "2023-09-29T12:52:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/294 "2024-02-16T09:22:58Z")

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I wasnt trying to hurt you. Are you sure you are not just acting up

Aiko is on record saying she enjoys hurting other people and doubled down on it as well

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/295 "2024-02-16T09:24:33Z")

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I’ll triple down on it.

I’m only here for the griefplay.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/297 "2024-02-16T14:39:39Z")

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> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> I wasnt trying to hurt you.

Yet, you still do. And it’s intentional.

I call to have you removed from posting because of your hurtful anti pvp hate speech.

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/298 "2024-02-16T14:43:09Z")

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You are kidding?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/299 "2024-02-16T14:44:57Z")

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Mocking me is hate speech.

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/300 "2024-02-16T14:47:56Z")

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And when someone shares an opinion that is different than yours they are mocking you?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/301 "2024-02-16T14:50:14Z")

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Questioning me is hate speech.

Please stop before I call in the ISD.

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/302 "2024-02-16T14:55:33Z")

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Ok, good talk 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/303 "2024-02-16T15:00:14Z")

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Patronizing me is hate speech.

Please stop.

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/304 "2024-02-16T15:05:00Z")

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I don’t know what patronizing means and when ilooked it up it didn’t make it clearer. How about we mute each other

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/305 "2024-02-16T19:25:18Z")

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Muting is also hate speech by oppression and erasure. Please leave him alone.

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**Author:** ![Cade102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade102/32/462300_2.png) [@Cade102](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade102)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/306 "2024-02-17T11:32:35Z")

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Blocking the spammers won’t do anything. They just go roll another alt.  
Banning the spammers won’t do anything. They just go roll another alt.  
Blocking the links themselves from being posted won’t do anything. They’ll just link to a chat channel with their link in it, or tell you to see their bio where the link is or they’ll just post the link text without the “www” part and tell you to add that in your browser.

There really is no way of preventing it.  
Which is sad, as it is a terrible first impression for new players.

Perhaps one thing we could do would be to add a nominal $1 charge for rolling every new character.  
Normal people won’t be affected, as a single $1 charge for a character you’ll be using for many years isn’t even worth noticing.  
A link spammer, troll or botter who makes several alts a day will rack up the costs fairly fast.

Something has to change.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/307 "2024-02-17T12:23:22Z")

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> [@Cade102](#):
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> $1 charge for rolling every new character

They can just create a new account and make a new spammer alt on it. Can use a different (and even disposable) e-mail address. They can use VPN and proper privacy software to hide any HW / SW / whatever based identifier as well thus prevent any new account being traced back to the original.

And as you’ve expressed in your post there are ways to circumvent any link filter thus limiting links to Omega subscription or something to can more severely punish any rule breakers would also not work.

Maybe they could ban the account (and all linked ones) that the referral link benefits but that can be circumvented as well and even more importantly abused to get other people banned. Though if any solution exists it might be around this concept of punishing the one benefiting (the actual spammer) but to ensure it neither can be exploited nor circumvented is another question.

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**Author:** ![Cade102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade102/32/462300_2.png) [@Cade102](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade102)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/308 "2024-02-17T22:52:06Z")

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$1 for any character on any account, credit card details to be provided upon account creation.  
Call it anti-fraud, whatever.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/309 "2024-02-17T23:23:21Z")

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People are trying to address the wrong issue. CCP could _easily_ fix the spam just by making a verbal rule prohibiting it. The people spamming are dedicated players who obviously don’t want to get punished, so they’d stop if it became forbidden. Only a small amount of spammers would continue to operate, composed mostly of those who don’t know the rules and a handful of disposables farming injectors and/or marketable rewards specifically, both of which could be easily policed.

CCP doesn’t _ **want** _ to fix the spam.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/310 "2024-02-18T01:05:46Z")

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Or, hear me out, just stop providing any benefit to the person who is handing out the link. The spam will stop immediately. New folks can still be referred, it just won’t give the person providing the referral any benefit outside of helping out a new player in their corp.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/312 "2024-03-04T02:03:15Z")

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> [@Glint](#):
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> GET A FREE

I’m tempted to flag you 😛 despite my principals on the matter of free speech.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-do-something-about-the-1mil-sp-spammers/422212/313 "2024-06-02T02:04:05Z")

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